1 Month to go and DPS Druids are still un-needed for Mythic +

[Ilnezhara]

I guess Blizz is giving the community what they wanted, like in Classic druid will be a 1 spec class again. We have 0 utility (let's call a lemon a lemon, Innervate is atrocious for mythic+), our AoE ramp up is still borderline absurd (when starfall event works) and we've entered the stage of "balance by nerfing". It's kind of a shame that Mythic+ Dungeons are just a burn fest so our heals don't matter (at least not on +6, the highest I've done).

Fire Mages are just infinitely better than Balance in every way.

Monks and DHs are infinitely better than Feral in every way.

We're like a bottom of the totem pole DPS and everyone seems to be okay with this, quite sad.

[Deleted]

You should change the title into: "1 Month to go and DPS [enter random class here] are still un-needed for Mythic +" because you see those nonsense threads in every class forum.

[LordAmbrosia]

Theres only 5 slots in a mythic+ dungeon, and you want all 12 classes to be "needed"?

[Ilnezhara]

Theres only 5 slots in a mythic+ dungeon, and you want all 12 classes to be "needed"?

I'd like to have a chance to get into a pug without being a fire mage even while being in one of the best guilds on the (relatively small) server.

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You should change the title into: "1 Month to go and DPS [enter random class here] are still un-needed for Mythic +" because you see those nonsense threads in every class forum.

It's not non-sense. The only group people WANT to take is Fire Mage, DH, WW, Blood DK, RSham

[Menolikeu]

We're like a bottom of the totem pole DPS and everyone seems to be okay with this, quite sad.

I'm sorry, i am not sure if we are playing the same game, it could be you as a player. I perform just fine in mythic+ I have been very competitive with my numbers on par with fire mages at times, dependent on gear. It is all how you play your class and the ability to AoE well with a balance druid. I have no problems with my AoE and I can often beat alot of classes in AoE. Just get some more practice in when legion goes live, and I am sure youll find that balance druids are in no way shape or form on the bottom.

[Keiyra]

I'd like to have a chance to get into a pug without being a fire mage even while being in one of the best guilds on the (relatively small) server.

Simple solution: Start the group yourself - you are guaranteed a spot!

Seriously an awful lot of belly aching over something that is simply addressed by taking the time and effort to fill your own group - its not hard! (sure its not as "easy" as being a fire mage and getting instant invite accepted) - but christ, you have a work around, use it. Form the group yourself!

[Taeldorian]

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It's not non-sense. The only group people WANT to take is Fire Mage, DH, WW, Blood DK, RSham

That's not even remotely correct. There's multiple comps that do really well, there isn't just one. And the one you listed isn't even the best.

Right now: Blood Dk, Hpally, fire mage, fury warrior, havoc. One of the best.
Another one: Prot pally, Rdruid, Fire Mage, WW monk, Havoc.
Another one: Guardian Druid, Rsham, Fire Mage, BM Hunter, WW monk.
Another one: Blood Dk/Prot pally, Hpriest, Fire Mage, WW monk, Havoc.

There's many comps that do extremely well together. I've been running the first one and have gotten to mythic 10, haven't had the chance to go further. There isn't just "one" good comp, there's many. My guild has multiple groups running mythic+ on beta and we've gotten good results from plenty of comps. Saying there's just one good comp is ridiculous.

Yes, some classes are better than others for mythic+ but there's multiple comps to run, not just one.

[Vatyr]

You're all wrong. All of the top people are running 3x hunter 1 blood dk and a healer.

[Deleted]

It's not non-sense. The only group people WANT to take is Fire Mage, DH, WW, Blood DK, RSham

Because the playerbase nowadays consists of lazy Idiots, which perfected the state of "I want everything now and with the least effort possible"

THATS the real problem of not having Class X and Specc Y wanted in Myhtic+, not because you cant do something properly with Class X and Specc Y, but rather you do only encounter 9 out of 10 people who made that phrase above to their life motto.

[Christonya]

Needed or required and viable are two separate things. I have been searching EVERY WHERE for lvl 110 sims and can't find them, so I won't comment on specific numbers but.... In a 5 man group, there's going to be one group of 5 that is strictly the best, that just how things are the question isn't "Why arn't druids one of the 5?" and rather "Are druids capable of doing it?" if the latter is a yes, then you're fine, if it's a no, then this thread is warranted.

[Danbala]

I'm not sure. I usually just start a group with my tank buddy and we all do fine. Maybe try making some friends on the server or different servers to group up with you? Friends usually don't kick out buddies in groups. I'm lucky to have 4 friends that play wow, so we each chose a dedicated spot (heals, tank, dps) and we pretty much just group up and go from there.

[glowpipe]

Theres only 5 slots in a mythic+ dungeon, and you want all 12 classes to be "needed"?

Every class have to be equaly viable for mythic+. When you need to spend that much time on artifact weapon then you can't change class only to get into a mythic+ That is a terrible game design. One of the worst

[LordAmbrosia]

Every class have to be equaly viable for mythic+. When you need to spend that much time on artifact weapon then you can't change class only to get into a mythic+ That is a terrible game design. One of the worst

Viable sure, but Needed? The way the OP talks, only one caster will ever be brought to Mythics, only one melee class, only one healer and only one tank, because they are "the best". Incredibly juvenile way to look at things, and the regular whining of just about every class is awful.

[Tobs92]

All specs are viable with a competent group, good communication and a decent amount of skill.
Stop being whiny brats, just because class X is not the best thing to pick.

[Ilnezhara]

I'm sorry, i am not sure if we are playing the same game, it could be you as a player. I perform just fine in mythic+ I have been very competitive with my numbers on par with fire mages at times, dependent on gear. It is all how you play your class and the ability to AoE well with a balance druid. I have no problems with my AoE and I can often beat alot of classes in AoE. Just get some more practice in when legion goes live, and I am sure youll find that balance druids are in no way shape or form on the bottom.

Would you mind sharing this mythical AoE rotation that circumvents the 3 wrath ramp up time to starfall?

[Gsara]

It doesnt matter at all what your comp is until you start hitting mythic 10+. Even then better players on the class of their choice will be better than min/max classes with mediocre players. You wont even need to worry about specific comps until you are progressing on 12/13+.

[Deleted]

Would you mind sharing this mythical AoE rotation that circumvents the 3 wrath ramp up time to starfall?

It's called resource pooling.

Not all classes are going to be amazing in mythic dungeons. Boomkins are actually amongst the best casters, but melee are just pretty dominant in dungeons (much like ranged is in raiding). It aint gonna change so no point complaining.

[Ilnezhara]

All specs are viable with a competent group, good communication and a decent amount of skill.
Stop being whiny brats, just because class X is not the best thing to pick.

Found the Fire Mage

[Ealyssa]

Why should a class be needed ?

Stupid concept indeed.

[Sarkol]

Every spec will have a spot in Mythic dungeons. Every one. Now, there's a few things you can do. You can reroll to the best of the best specs right now, which is fine, but if you're such a player who cares only about performance, you wouldn't be here whining. Or you can just play what you like, because all specs are viable to at least mythic 10. Either way, these threads are pointless. You can care about performance AND play the spec you like, which is cool. No need to say you won't have a spot though, when everyone, some way, will have one.