Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

**infinitemeridian** · 2016-08-25, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by 7-4

No, it's not. This isn't 1980 where whites were 90% of the electorate. In 2012, they were 70%. And that number is falling faster and faster. Factor in that 40% vote Democrat and suddenly the white republican vote won't win you anything.

In other words, Republicans should become Democrats and promise an expanded welfare state in order to win? Thanks, but no thanks. And you're delusional if you think Democrats didn't open the borders to replace the voting population in this country.

No, you're banking on the idea that all minorities support a "welfare state", which is untrue. I would say that the vast majority of them aren't going to vote for republicans until they can keep the xenophobic side of their base out of their targeting reticule/policies.

The republican base had an active campaign to win over the rising Hispanic vote that was giong pretty well up until Trump ruined their chances.

**Noxx79** · 2016-08-25, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by 7-4

No, it's not. This isn't 1980 where whites were 90% of the electorate. In 2012, they were 70%. And that number is falling faster and faster. Factor in that 40% vote Democrat and suddenly the white republican vote won't win you anything.

In other words, Republicans should become Democrats and promise an expanded welfare state in order to win? Thanks, but no thanks. And you're delusional if you think Democrats didn't open the borders to replace the voting population in this country.

The borders aren't open. So no, I'm not delusional. You're delusional if you believe the lies that we have an "open border".

I also find it interesting that you think the only thing non-whites care about is an expanded welfare state. I mentioned nothing of the sort, I said that the republicans should offer something that non-whites would find attractive.

**DeadmanWalking** · 2016-08-25, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by 7-4

No, it's not. This isn't 1980 where whites were 90% of the electorate. In 2012, they were 70%. And that number is falling faster and faster. Factor in that 40% vote Democrat and suddenly the white republican vote won't win you anything.

I'm just pointing out that your math does not take into account the size of the populations. 90% of black vote sounds good but 90% of 14% is still less than 60% of 75% of the population, which is the white republican vote. Also Asians don't always vote Democrat, they went almost unilaterally for G.W. Bush. You also stated that Whites will become a minority, but that isn't what the statisticians are actually saying, they are saying if you add all the minorities together then whites become less than them in total. Whites would still be the larger than black, latin and Asian population individually.

Basically it is like asking someone to eat 90% of a cupcake or 60% of a cake, obviously it is easier to eat the cupcake than the cake portions.

And they can win on the white vote currently, Trump, while going dick deep in failure in the polls can still win the election if skeletons pop out of the Clintons tent. In fact I would even suggest that if they had a republican candidate that was actually a republican and didn't get embroiled in racism and general stupidity who stuck to policy then Republicans would be giving Hillary a run for her money.

This race isn't locked up on race alone.

The republicans will have to abandon their racist/anti-gay/exclusionary politics if they want to compete in the future, where they actually reach out to latinos and blacks rather than making fake overtures from rooms full of white people.

**Pangean** · 2016-08-25, 05:32 PM

Oh Oh. It looks like Ann Coulter sobered up and is now doing her own "softening". That's what having a book tour about your book on Trump does to you. Grifters gotta grift.

Coulter: Maybe 'in our interest' to keep some illegal immigrants

Conservative author and Donald Trump supporter Ann Coulter isn't giving up on her candidate yet, even as he appears to be shifting on an issue most dear to her.

Trump is now open to possibly "softening" his hardline stance on illegal immigration, and the candidate said Wednesday night on Fox News that he would consider letting many illegal immigrants remain in the country, instead of deporting them all.

Immigration has been a cornerstone of Trump's campaign since its launch last year, starting with his promise to "build a wall" on the Mexican border and deport all illegal immigrants.

In an interview earlier that same day with the Washington Examiner, Coulter, whose own stance on immigration inspired Trump's controversial views on it, said it's not worrying her.

"It mostly worries me rhetorically ... I mean, what to do with the illegals already here was never really a big part of it," she said. "We're getting a wall. We're definitely getting a wall. That's the one thing we know about a Trump presidency."

She said Trump still offers more than any of the other Republicans had.

"I don't think it is a change in policy," she said of Trump. "The policy is anyone who's here illegally is here illegally, does not have the right to be here. We'll decide whether it's in our interest to let them stay or not. Perhaps it is in our interest to let some of them stay."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/co...stom_click=rss

**kail** · 2016-08-25, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Kujako

So all those fences, check points, patrols, etc are doing what in your opinion? Telling people to have a nice day when they cross?

And we didn't deport millions of illegals, we just took them on a field trip.

**DeadmanWalking** · 2016-08-25, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by infinitemeridian

No, you're banking on the idea that all minorities support a "welfare state", which is untrue. I would say that the vast majority of them aren't going to vote for republicans until they can keep the xenophobic side of their base out of their targeting reticule/policies.

The republican base had an active campaign to win over the rising Hispanic vote that was giong pretty well up until Trump ruined their chances.

I wouldn't say it was going pretty well, but it was making some headway, especially with a few more latins filling roles as Republican politicians. It is hard to get behind a party when the average base voter is screaming angrily that you should not exist even though there hasn't been an immigrant in your direct family line for several generations to the point that you could never of met your immigrant ancestor.

Some Republicans have been trying to focus the attention of the base that Latins are almost always Catholic and that makes them Christians, but a lot of the base doesn't want to hear it, too busy complaining about hearing spanish on the phone to listen to reason.

**Edge-** · 2016-08-25, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Pangean

Oh Oh. It looks like Ann Coulter sobered up and is now doing her own "softening". That's what having a book tour about your book on Trump does to you. Grifters gotta grift.

Nooooo, she has been my shining beacon of unwavering insanity and dogmatic adherence to her crazy beliefs. How could she do this to me ;______;

**DeadmanWalking** · 2016-08-25, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Edge-

Nooooo, she has been my shining beacon of unwavering insanity and dogmatic adherence to her crazy beliefs. How could she do this to me ;______;

You can always go to youtube and find the interview where she states that "Choosing Mike Pence as his runningmate is Donald Trumps first and only mistake in his campaign." It is like bottled Insanity from the cup that is perpetually overflowing.

**7-4** · 2016-08-25, 05:52 PM