Originally Posted by
Finnigast
Hello All,
Long time lurker - first time poster, be gentle...
So, I find it interesting that given the lengths people on this site go through to stay "up-to-date" on all the current happenings with the Warlock class, there is still so much dissension over what state Warlocks are currently in. After reading the majority of the threads here looking for some "conclusive" feedback on spec state for legion, I have found quite the spread of opinions and feedback.
- Locks are fine, I think *insert spec* is fun.
This appears to be the more casual player, for which spec viability is largely irrelevant. No real insight to be gathered here.
- When I play my lock on the Archimond fight, *insert class* does WAY more damage than me, and my rotation/damage/mechanics feel like garbage"
Absolutely irrelevant. Balance is based on 110 with Artifacts. Feedback based on performance at 100 with no artifacts (and using sets and class trinkets that won't be in place at 110) means nothing.
- I heard from *insert random supposed beta tester* that locks are fine/horrible/good at X/bad at Y/etc.
Anecdotal evidence from a second-hand source. Fun to read, but carries little actual substance.
- I heard/read feedback from *insert "reputable" source from beta* that locks are fine/horrible/good at X/bad at Y/etc.
Getting a bit more substance here. However, I have noticed that "Locks need some tweaking in a few areas, and are beat out by *insert class*, but overall aren't too bad", easily turns into "OMG, Locks are horrible and can't compete, *insert guild* said Locks can't compete and they aren't bringing any!"
There are others, but those seem to be the "patient zero" comments - everything else appears to spirals out from there.
My point is, if this varied, oft-uninformed, occasionally ignorant, feedback is what is gathered on this forum, I can only imagine how much worse it is on the Bnet forums. Given how difficult it is to find definitive, conclusive evidence as to how Locks perform in-raid, at 110, with Artifacts and Legendaries - is it any wonder that Blizz hasn't just taken the "feedback" and "fixed" Warlocks?
Don't get me wrong, I know there are broken and un-intuitive things with Lock mechanics that should be addressed. I see them, and anyone who tries to play lock at a half-way serious level sees them. However, before saying "the community has spoken - fix this shit", or "We have 1500 posts on how locks are broken, why aren't you doing something Blizz?", maybe we should keep in mind the quality of the feedback that Bliz is receiving. We can't seem to get consensus amongst the relatively small group here beyond "There are things that need fixing".
By all means, voice your concerns! However, unless you have actually played the most recent version of beta, at max tier, with all relevant Artifact/Legendaries, and are reasonably skilled, your "concerns" (regardless of how justified you think they are) most likely mean jack squat...
P.S.
I would love to have an "info thread" that can only be posted to by people who are active in beta. That way we can attribute at least a small degree of validity to what they are saying...