[Mega(?)thread] Heroes of the Storm gamescom Announcements

[Nikkaszal]

HhhhhYESS-huh!

If his hero selection quote isn't TASTE-AH MAH BLEHHD I'll be very disappointed

[Nerraw]

For anyone not in the loop:

[ttak82]

Yeah so 2 more melee assassins coming into the meta soon. Good stuff.

[DesoPL]

I hope blizz will understand soon or later, that we need more supports and eventually specialists.

This year is dominated by warriors and assasins. ;/

[ttak82]

I hope blizz will understand soon or later, that we need more supports and eventually specialists.

This year is dominated by warriors and assasins. ;/

Both of these are the toughest to iterate and balance because of mechanics. But I agree, we could have more of these roles. Supports in particular.

[Sir Andy]

I hope blizz will understand soon or later, that we need more supports and eventually specialists.

This year is dominated by warriors and assasins. ;/

Sure, more Specialists like Vikings or Medivh or Abathur. Something with a genuinely wonky playstyle.

We need less Specialists who teamfight as well as Assassins and push 5 times better. Looking at you, Zagara, Sylvanas, Xul.

[Mormolyce]

For anyone not in the loop:

So I wonder if they'll address the whole "why does an Orc speak like Lo Wang from Shadow Warrior" issue :P

[RH92]

We need less Specialists who teamfight as well as Assassins and push 5 times better. Looking at you, Zagara, Sylvanas, Xul.

Actually, Zagara is the only one who can do it all. She couldn't push as fast before the rework. Now she can push very well along with having high impact Heroics, very good and effective hero damage, insane map control, basically immune to ganks if played well and still extremely potent solo laner.

Sylvanas on the other hand... She has only one impactful Heroic (MC is good only if you have Kharazim with SSS), a powerful trait which depends on your team exploiting it and maybe you can also count a Vulnerability at 16 I guess. Yes, she can do good 1v1 damage, but it works only against isolated target otherwise the damage is just tickle.

What is so strong about Xul in team fights? He can just go in, cast Poison Nova or Skeletal Mages and then hopelessly run around trying to catch something with Bone Prison that might just get Cleansed out. Xul is excellent early game hero, but in late game he just can't team fight very well.

[Fabray]

Actually, Zagara is the only one who can do it all. She couldn't push as fast before the rework. Now she can push very well along with having high impact Heroics, very good and effective hero damage, insane map control, basically immune to ganks if played well and still extremely potent solo laner.

Sylvanas on the other hand... She has only one impactful Heroic (MC is good only if you have Kharazim with SSS), a powerful trait which depends on your team exploiting it and maybe you can also count a Vulnerability at 16 I guess. Yes, she can do good 1v1 damage, but it works only against isolated target otherwise the damage is just tickle.

What is so strong about Xul in team fights? He can just go in, cast Poison Nova or Skeletal Mages and then hopelessly run around trying to catch something with Bone Prison that might just get Cleansed out. Xul is excellent early game hero, but in late game he just can't team fight very well.

Xul is great in team fights, his W is beastly, his Q is decent, and his E has a vulnerability on it too, both ults are very strong, he's just an all around great hero. Obviously his strength is pushing and assisting ganks with the root, but he doesn't fall off at all in team fights.

[RH92]

Xul is great in team fights, his W is beastly, his Q is decent, and his E has a vulnerability on it too, both ults are very strong, he's just an all around great hero. Obviously his strength is pushing and assisting ganks with the root, but he doesn't fall off at all in team fights.

Just slow him and he is done. He is just a wave clear Hero. Yeah, he has a lot of tools, but they are not very reliable.

When you play Xul, you try to snowball early game and win around on your talent advantages. On even talents he is not reliable.

[Sir Andy]

Sylvanas on the other hand... She has only one impactful Heroic (MC is good only if you have Kharazim with SSS), a powerful trait which depends on your team exploiting it and maybe you can also count a Vulnerability at 16 I guess. Yes, she can do good 1v1 damage, but it works only against isolated target otherwise the damage is just tickle.

Bullshit. She cancer pushes on her own. She turns Battlefield of Eternity into a 5 minute game. The ability to entirely shut down minions, mercenaries and structures sounds like a Heroic ability, not something that happens every time she presses W or right clicks.

Wailing Arrow alone is a powerful enough teamfight tool.

[RH92]

Bullshit. She cancer pushes on her own. She turns Battlefield of Eternity into a 5 minute game. The ability to entirely shut down minions, mercenaries and structures sounds like a Heroic ability, not something that happens every time she presses W or right clicks.

Wailing Arrow alone is a powerful enough teamfight tool.

Sure I talk bullshit for living.

What you just mentioned is team exploiting her Trait, not actual fight of a team against another team. In a fight she just offers Vulnerability and Wailing Arrow, her damage is just not that good. She is nowhere near doing solid damage. You just don't pick Sylvanas if you don't have powerful Assassin on a team.

Just ignore Black Arrow and Wailing Arrow, what else she offers? It is not like you take Maw/Nydus and Creep Tumor away from Zagara and she just becomes useless hero, she can still push and she can still do a lot of damage.

[Sir Andy]

Sure I talk bullshit for living.

What you just mentioned is team exploiting her Trait, not actual fight of a team against another team. In a fight she just offers Vulnerability and Wailing Arrow, her damage is just not that good. She is nowhere near doing solid damage. You just don't pick Sylvanas if you don't have powerful Assassin on a team.

Just ignore Black Arrow and Wailing Arrow, what else she offers? It is not like you take Maw/Nydus and Creep Tumor away from Zagara and she just becomes useless hero, she can still push and she can still do a lot of damage.

Exploiting is the right word alright. And no, Sylvanas is picked or banned consistently at higher levels of play. Early in the draft.

https://tempostorm.com/articles/info...-2-at-gamescom

She does easy sustained damage and she has a broken push trait. It adds up. It's like being chased by Tracer.

[Dizzeeyooo]

She turns Battlefield of Eternity into a 5 minute game

she turns battlefield into a 5 min game if you win every immortal, her immortal damage is terrible compared to other, better picks

draft a comp that can win every single immortal and their sylvanas is useless - obviously less then easy to do in hero league where 90% of people are fucking retarded, but anyway

And no, Sylvanas is picked or banned consistently at higher levels of play

higher (competitive) levels of play have absolutely nothing to do with standard gameplay

It's like being chased by Tracer.

why are you letting tracer chase you lol

[RH92]

Exploiting is the right word alright. And no, Sylvanas is picked or banned consistently at higher levels of play. Early in the draft.

https://tempostorm.com/articles/info...-2-at-gamescom

She does easy sustained damage and she has a broken push trait. It adds up. It's like being chased by Tracer.

You know what are first picks? Top tier Assassins, there you go. Even if Assassin is not a first pick, they always pick good Assassins. Instead of crap they are picking in Hero League.

And don't go with Zagara and Tyrael being most first picks, Tyrael is broken in competitive play because of Sanctification and when you pick Zagara you just don't pick Sylvanas.

[Nikkaszal]

Exploiting is the right word alright. And no, Sylvanas is picked or banned consistently at higher levels of play. Early in the draft.

https://tempostorm.com/articles/info...-2-at-gamescom

She does easy sustained damage and she has a broken push trait. It adds up. It's like being chased by Tracer.

"Chased" by Tracer? What low leagues are you playing in?

You don't run vs a Tracer, because you can't. You stand your ground and blow her up.

[Sir Andy]

What low leagues are you playing in?

Master. Had GFE Khroen in my last Hero League game of the night yesterday feed on Tracer. How about you?

You don't run vs a Tracer, because you can't. You stand your ground and blow her up.

It was a comment about the steady damage both of them deal out.

[Dizzeeyooo]

Master. Had GFE Khroen in my last Hero League game of the night yesterday feed on Tracer. How about you?

and clearly you deserve to be there, when your posts indicate that you know pretty much nothing about the heroes you complain about

You don't run vs a Tracer, because you can't. You stand your ground and blow her up.

wish more then 2% of the people that play hots knew this was the case x)

[Sir Andy]

and clearly you deserve to be there, when your posts indicate that you know pretty much nothing about the heroes you complain about


wish more then 2% of the people that play hots knew this was the case x)

Know nothing? Sure man. Sylvanas' teamfight is decent enough (definitely better than some Assassins, hence why she is a constant and they arent) and her push potential with the Minion changes is cancerous enough to force Heroes like Valla and Hammer out of favor because they can't just click W and win at life. If anything, I'm just salty Gazlowe and Nazeebo can't faceroll to victory like the others can.

I'm done derailing. Anyone else who wants to talk about how "balanced" Sylvanas and Zagara are can PM me.

Alarak and Zarya look cool. I'll probably get Zarya as a birthday gift to myself (much better than last year's which would've been...Morales x_x).

[blankfaced]

Quote from the blue clarification:

"Bit more detail that we've been sharing here at Gamescom:

Initial selection is Tyrande, Anub'arak, and Thrall. If you own one or more of those, there are three other heroes that will backfill in so you have options. If you own all 6, you'll get gold instead."

That reads to me that you select one hero.

Ah, I didn't know about that quote, apologies. But yay, free gold for me as long as Kerrigan or Vikings aren't in the other batch.