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    Why I'm choosing to main Assass over Outlaw

    There's been a lot of fuss over the recent Assass nerf, which I am inclined to admit was pretty obnoxious and perhaps a bit too heavy handed. Before the nerf, I was personally committed to maining an assass rogue. After the nerf, I'll admit, I was a bit shaken by it. Outlaw seemed more and more the "in" spec, everyone flocking to it like it's the best thing since sliced bread.

    But I am not. I am maintaining my stance, and am for sure maining assass. Why? Well, because it's fun, and I enjoy it.

    I really do not think that Outlaw is going to perform so much better than Assass as to make it completely unviable. Yes, in the past, this has been the case. It's been a very long time since Assass was king of the mountain, but that doesn't matter to me anymore.

    I just hope people realize that this game should first and foremost be about one thing, and that's enjoyment. If you're not having fun, you shouldn't be playing. That just creates negativity, bias, and eventual burnout. For the longest time it really bothered me that Assass wasn't #1 and almost completely irrelevant. But not anymore.

    With the recent class overhauls, and artifacts, I am fairly certain Assass won't be so far behind as it previously has been. A fully decked out rogue with a Legendary item and a powered up artifact should be a force to be reckoned with, I have no fear. So for that very reason, I am deciding to not main the thing that might plausibly put out the most DPS, but maining the spec that I am the most comfortable with, and the spec that I actually truly love, and that is

    Assassination

    Come, my sleuthy brethren. Bask in the blood of your gouged enemies and nay-sayers.

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    That's really cute and everything, and if you don't care about being optimal then that's also really cute. But I raid mythic and I will sticking to the best spec which is Outlaw. I enjoy outlaw anyway, if you're gonna be raiding LFR and heroics in a casual ish guild then any of the specs are viable

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    Lol, didn't take long for the elitist to come out

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    Well, he may have chosen not the smartest way to express his opinion, but in the core he is right. For someone, who cares about fast progression, the specc with the highest performance will be specced. If you don´t care for fast progression on mythic levels, which is totally fine, you can pick whatever you like, it won´t make a huge diffrence.

    Now, I am not very knowledgeable about Rogues. Does Aassassination bring a unique buff to the raid? Then it might even be worth to take a single one with you! If not, and Assassination performs worse then Outlaw in every aspect, then it is unlikely hardcore progression raids will bring them. that has nothing to do with elitism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Guns View Post
    Come, my sleuthy brethren. Bask in the blood of your gouged enemies and nay-sayers.
    But assassination doesn't have gouge anymore. Outlaw does.

    Personally, I'll probably off spec assassination because I LOVE their artifact weapon.
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    But that's kind of my point. Mythic raiders make up a very small percent of players. I'm a heroic raider and I'm fine with that. So picking what is more enjoyable and it will be viable. Very viable.

    In fact, I don't think I ever presented the idea or notion that mythic raiders shouldn't pick what's optimal. Thus making his post completely unwarranted and unnecessary other than to be an elitist prick.

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    Some people enjoy contributing in multiplayer game and dont care about the color of their buttons. What is fun for you is your opinion and frankly noone gives a fuck. Except your raid, that will for sure be amused.

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    It's hilarious how hostile people get.

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    Ofc game should be about have fun! That you hot spot on and I agree 100% But also what is fun is different for different people, personally I enjoy max my dos and try beat myself or others on pew. Can't even do dread mine on lvl 16 without try compete. I play the spec that potentially give me best dmg in the raid and instances and I try my best no matter if it's a lfr roflstomp or a progress raid.

    Others might find a rp or nice flashy moves be most fun. Always go for fun.

    If Sin turn out do most dmg I say Sin is most fun.

    If outlaw do, same.

    If Sub do most dmg I go drink myself to sleep then come back , play sub and say that is fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurinth View Post
    Some people enjoy contributing in multiplayer game and dont care about the color of their buttons. What is fun for you is your opinion and frankly noone gives a fuck. Except your raid, that will for sure be amused.
    Savage, but pretty much this. Play whatever spec you want to play, no one will give a shit unless you are impeding on other peoples experience. For Example, if you bring asass to a fight that your group isn't making the dps check, you're hindering everyone else. It doesn't even matter if you aren't doing bad as assass compared to the other people in your group, you could be doing better with the same effort into something else that was a little less "fun". TL,DR play whatever the hell you want but don't assume your situation and opinion is the same as everyone elses.
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    nice blog man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Guns View Post
    It's hilarious how hostile people get.
    Its you being hostile in the first place. Why do you assume everyone should share your opinion? Why do you call everyone not agreeing with you elitist? You are going exactly opposite way you pretend to go. You look at fun from just one angle in a game of many. Do you assume people are here to have fun doing their rotation? Or is it just you playing this game SP way? What if you are in the wrong place? Why are you playing multiplayer if you care about pushing buttons so much? Maybe this game would be better without people like you, instead of "elitists"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osicat View Post
    Ofc game should be about have fun! That you hot spot on and I agree 100% But also what is fun is different for different people, personally I enjoy max my dos and try beat myself or others on pew. Can't even do dread mine on lvl 16 without try compete. I play the spec that potentially give me best dmg in the raid and instances and I try my best no matter if it's a lfr roflstomp or a progress raid.

    Others might find a rp or nice flashy moves be most fun. Always go for fun.

    If Sin turn out do most dmg I say Sin is most fun.

    If outlaw do, same.

    If Sub do most dmg I go drink myself to sleep then come back , play sub and say that is fun
    The advantage of having a Paladin main is never having to ponder which spec to play for best dps. :P

    But for pure dps classes I generally go for whichever spec is either the most fun, or has abilities that can be arranged in a similar fashion to my main's, so that muscle memory would help with rotations. I haven't played my rogue since Cata, but lately I've tried it out a bit, and I must say I like Outlaw. And with Shadowmeld a nelf even has an extra stealth button.
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    You made a post exclaiming loudly and proudly that you're playing assassination solely because of how you feel while openly acknowledging that your spec is inferior. Did you want people to pat you on your back or something? Of course people will instantly post that outlaw is superior. There's no discussion to be had over what you posted. To get defensive when you knew this sort of "elitist" response was guaranteed is childish.

    No one is gives a crap what spec you play if you're playing in a non top end environment. Congrats on enjoying the casual aspect of WoW raiding. It's hilarious how defensive people get when posting about the feelings. It's like there's nothing in the OP to reply to other than his feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Guns View Post
    Lol, didn't take long for the elitist to come out
    I'm in no way an elitist, I don't understand why you have made a thread about why we should main a spec we like - no shit. I like all the Rogues specs I don't need to be told. But as I say I don't play casual. People like you will do that, which is fine. But if you mythic raid in a decent guild it's not enough so I don't know what the point of this thread was?
    Play what you want to play, but any mythic raider in a decent guild will play the optimal spec, whether it's outlaw, sub or assa.

    People get hostile cause you waste forum space with pointless threads. That's good for you but no one else cares.
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    If you decide to *main* something, you should be able to play more then one spec, or you will burn yourself very fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexi View Post
    That's really cute and everything, and if you don't care about being optimal then that's also really cute. But I raid mythic and I will sticking to the best spec which is Outlaw. I enjoy outlaw anyway, if you're gonna be raiding LFR and heroics in a casual ish guild then any of the specs are viable
    Don't you feel sorry for this guy?

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    I really like the new Assassination spec, almost made it my 'main-alt'. Personally find it the most fun spec to play out of the 3.

    Also, since when did people get so god damn salty and prickish around here? Jesus christ, let the OP play what he wants. Heroic raiding doesn't require 100% optimal specs.

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    I don't feel that you made this thread with the intent you're trying to show. It's no secret to anybody that some people are not bothered with optimal setups and would rather play something they enjoy a bit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Guns View Post
    Lol, didn't take long for the elitist to come out
    "My view is the right view and anybody disagreeing is an elitist"

    The femi-sjw side of wow.

    You came with your /mylife thread nobody cares about (really, you should keep that for your friends and/or guild), accept people not agreeing with it.
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