[Movie] Warcraft (June 2016)

[Zulkhan]

And if you keep riding the riding the ride. Well thats on you. Get sucked back in because the bait is just to good for you to skip.

Except there are quite many posters who only occasionally posted here and replied because they had no idea of who they're dealing with. I repeated many times to just ignore the guy, but he'll always gets the attention he wants in a way or another.

All this grand talking, anyway, doesn't change the fact of who's the main problem here. He always was and always will. Two guys backing him up because they agree with his overall opinion ain't going to change this truth.

[quras]

SNip... Two guys backing him up because they agree with his overall opinion ain't going to change this truth.

And now you know why the thread keeps going. No one can stop posting and not everyone agrees because someones "truth" is BS to someone else.

[Osmeric]

I'd be VERY surprised if a sequel isn't green-lit sooner or later.

When Wanda Cinema aquired Legendargy one of the key aims was to make films more for the international market (ie China). Considering the huge success of this in China then it'd be making a pretty bad statement to still regard it as a failure over all. If they can even break even then it'd be good for them to be able to show it as a success and a full franchisepportunity.

Secondly, the Chinese movie industry revenue grew by 50% last year and keeps going up and up. Even by 2017 it's likely to be larger than US. By the time a "Wacraft 2: Tides of Darkness" movie was actually made and released, failure in the US is going to be a complete non-issue if it can still be huge in China.

Reorg plans in Wanda were suddenly scrapped early this month. The mediocre performance of Warcraft has something to do with it.

http://english.china.com/news/busine...03/722633.html

"Wanda shelves asset plan after July's box-office decline in China"

Wanda Cinema Line Corp said Tuesday it is shelving a plan to reorganize its parent company's entertainment assets after box-office takings in China, the world's second-biggest film market, declined sharply in July.

According to a filing with the Shenzhen Stock Exchange, Wanda Cinema, a subsidiary of China's conglomerate Dalian Wanda, will scrap a 37.2 billion yuan (.6 billion) acquisition of a movie-making sister company Wanda Media Co, owner of U.S. film studio Legendary Pictures.

Shares of Wanda Cinema fell 1.17 percent, closing at 69.97 yuan on Tuesday.

It seems to have been a sudden move. In a June 29 stock filing, Wanda Cinema said the reorganization plan was going well and there were no factors that might cause the suspension of the deal.

The timing of this is a few days after Legendary stopped reporting Warcraft box office numbers.

[Tornwar]

Reorg plans in Wanda were suddenly scrapped early this month. The mediocre performance of Warcraft has something to do with it.

http://english.china.com/news/busine...03/722633.html

"Wanda shelves asset plan after July's box-office decline in China"



The timing of this is a few days after Legendary stopped reporting Warcraft box office numbers.

Wait, what does this mean then?

[Osmeric]

Wait, what does this mean then?

Good question, but the sharp decline of box office for them in China in July would indicate throwing Warcraft up on all those screens may have cost them.

[quras]

Good question, but the sharp decline of box office for them in China in July would indicate throwing Warcraft up on all those screens may have cost them.

Which in turn makes me think about the article that said the numbers in China might not have been as legit as first claimed.

http://chinafilminsider.com/china-bo...come-scrutiny/

If you look up pictures of that area. I can't imagine those people were going to the theater.

[Tackhisis]

outright lied.

Every claim I made in that thread can be confirmed by movie screenshots, public sources like Numbers, and so on. Those are facts, and there are no place for "lies".

[Tornwar]

I just think its weird why they would be making up a bigger number than what actually happened? If its not legit, how muchx did it make then?

[deepr]

Just watched it. As someone who has played the games without paying too much attention to story/lore, I enjoyed the movie. It's good for what it is and I didn't expect more from it. It started somewhat messy but it actually got better along the way, that's quite an achievement in itself. I'd rate it a 7.

[Osmeric]

I just think its weird why they would be making up a bigger number than what actually happened?

Presumably those in Wanda Cinema would benefit from the reorg, which depended on them appearing attractive financially.

[Tackhisis]

There are just 14:12 PAL minutes of extra scenes, that is 1:10 min for each scene on average. Not very impressive, given the most scenes are just extensions of existing ones.

[Simulacrum]

So I finally got around to seeing this. Didn't expect it to be good, but, man, how did they fuck it up so bad? When it's so easy to get it right? Should've just started with a LotR-style in medias res retelling of the first war ('cuz nobody gives a FUCK about the first war, and it would've let us see some of the more badass shit like orcs slaughtering humans, only to get butchered by the knights, only for the arrogant humans to lose to the orcs, etc.) and gone straight into the second war then told it as it happened in the old canon. Shit would've been badass. We could've seen all sorts of races fightin' and killin' each other. Seen badass grampa Lothar die like a hero at the hands of Doomhammer, only for the humans to rally and beat the orcs' asses, etc. And gul'dan dying like the dumbass he was, of course.

But instead we got this weird, stupid "inspiration" of a story where none of the characters resemble their counterparts in anything but name (Lothar is a punky dcuchebag, garoina is a good guy, gul'dan is the leader of the fukken horde?, medhiv has been 'corrupted by THE FEL', etc.), the orcs are retarded hippies who have just been corrupted but are still honorable and so on

it didn't even have any cool fights. only reason the orcs didn't just roll over the humans were because of plot, as far as anyone can tell. guy literally overhead presses a ton and uses a warhorse as a projectile weapon. humans can't fight that. except they could, even though that made no sense, which just made everything even more retarded.

mah well, glad I didn't pay anything for it

[Tackhisis]

garoina is a good guy,

Garona was retconned as a 'good guy' since Warcraft III.

humans can't fight that. except they could, even though that made no sense

Humans can fight that, as they have superior weaponry like swords and lances (not shown in movie, though), and ranged weapons like crossbows (in game) or firearms in the movie. That's not much you can do against that with brute force and blunt weapons alone.

[Tornwar]

mah well, glad I didn't pay anything for it

Sweet camrip bro

[Tackhisis]

Sweet camrip bro

Totally a camrip:

[Plehnard]

Reorg plans in Wanda were suddenly scrapped early this month. The mediocre performance of Warcraft has something to do with it.

http://english.china.com/news/busine...03/722633.html

"Wanda shelves asset plan after July's box-office decline in China"

The timing of this is a few days after Legendary stopped reporting Warcraft box office numbers.

They didn't stop reporting the Numbers, the film ran out in the first week of July and can not really be made responsible for a 18% Decline for that month.
It was more than 3 weeks in cinema already when that month started.

Warcraft was in there because of the overall worldwide loss, not because of it's Box Office numbers in China.

Which in turn makes me think about the article that said the numbers in China might not have been as legit as first claimed.

This was the only article that claimed this (all other cited this one) and only with very shaky evidence. There has been no following "the scrutiny" of this ever since.
Also the article is about the second weekend numbers only, that would be 24Million of the 221 million overall who stand in question there.

If you look up pictures of that area. I can't imagine those people were going to the theater.

If you would have really looked up the pictures you would have seen that the flooding only appeared in the lower regions of that city near the river line.

Again vague evidence for some serious claims.

Closer to 350 would be my guess. We will likely never know though.

So we're at wildly pulling out numbers out of our arses again?

[Zulkhan]

So we're at wildly pulling out numbers out of our arses again?

To be fair, he said "would be my guess". Good or bad, a guess remains.

[Jotaux]

Well if we are throwing in unsubstantiated numbers, I think they are lying in China and actually did $2 billion.

[Plehnard]

Well if we are throwing in unsubstantiated numbers, I think they are lying in China and actually did $2 billion.

To keep all the profit! Ingenious!

[tangocash]

Reorg plans in Wanda were suddenly scrapped early this month. The mediocre performance of Warcraft has something to do with it.

http://english.china.com/news/busine...03/722633.html

"Wanda shelves asset plan after July's box-office decline in China"



The timing of this is a few days after Legendary stopped reporting Warcraft box office numbers.

Warcraft only played for a week in July. It already had its run in China within June, not July. The decline at the box office in July had more to do with China not allowing other blockbusters into the country, and less to do with Warcraft(if anything at all). They didn't even allow Ghostbusters to play(thank god) which opened right after Warcraft left theaters in the first week of July.

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Which in turn makes me think about the article that said the numbers in China might not have been as legit as first claimed.

http://chinafilminsider.com/china-bo...come-scrutiny/

If you look up pictures of that area. I can't imagine those people were going to the theater.

People were going to the theater, even in that flooded area, what they were accused of is some type of fraud which has been rampant already in China in the past anyway, where people will buy tickets to another movie but they'll receive tickets to an entirely different movie while still being able to see the movie they want. Their money however goes to the other movie, in this case Warcraft. Whether it's true or not we don't know it's just an accusation.

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Totally a camrip:

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You already admitted you first watched the movie on camrip when it first came out
Better versions have come out since then