Can we just all agree that Blizzard is destroying world interaction?

[Aeula]

Whenever something big happened in a zone "back in the day" you'd get "world server is down" in a matter of minutes granted you played on a realm with high population.

It was on argent dawn EU, highest pop RP server in our region. We had no issues when we did it in patch 5.1.

[omeomorfismo]

lol no.
how is a immutable world more interactive than phased world?

[Krille]

It was on argent dawn EU, highest pop RP server in our region. We had no issues when we did it in patch 5.1.

Oh yea no. I was speaking about years ago (BC). Their hardware have obviously gotten better over the years.

[jettzypher]

I cannot agree. If I want to interact with people, I have no issues going somewhere with other players to socialize. Blizzard may have provided many tools to enable the lack of player interaction, but ultimately it's the player's fault for acting that way.

[Krille]

I am going to continue telling you I am getting confused about the agenda of your statement even though its clear i was properly defeated in my argument and want to look like I am making fun of someone putting me on my one up over you and making myself look aggressively pretentious so there is no point in arguing back becoz if you do i will just make it look like i trolled you harder making myself look cooler so you should just stop arguing with me coz im running out of ways to argue your sense ur making

I think you're seriously over-analyzing the importance of this forum.

[Demonidze]

i play on a mostly dead server at the moment, and with this new phasing feature Ogrimmar feels alive again.

[shonist]

With all the phasing going on. You barely see a small percentage of your server.
There are like 5 different faces going on Outland realm and everytime it gets to crowded you see half the world fading away around you.
This is one of those features who will probably hurt more people then actually help.

I don't see point in MMO's having a feature that makes the world less populated.

And no one can convince me why it's better.
I am playing a MMORPG, i don't want to see 20% of the active players of my server.

Legion is obviously doing quite amazing so far it has shown us. but the new phasing feature, is one of the biggest NO in WoW history.

maybe its not an mmmorpg anymore. Its their game, they design it around what they want not around a genre.
you think they are there and "Ey, we cant add this feature because its an mmorpg". (?

not saying i like it. but forget about what kind of game is and then spect to be exactly like that.

[Deleted]

Goddamn it, Gimlix, why do you keep making these threads?

[glorygores]

No we can not agree. Game is 1000x better with phasing. I didn't give a fuck about billy the warrior from the same server as me when I killed him and I sure as fuck don't care about jimmy the shadow priest from another server when I kill him.

If you don't like seeing people from other servers, then go to a server that doesn't have a dead population, stop clinging to the shit server you played on back in vanilla because MUH MEMORIES. Everyone else clearly moved on.

And you people who think Vanilla was some carebear fuckfest of "ONLY NICE GUYS GET INVITED TO THE GOOD GUILDS" well then idk what game you played in 2004 but it wasn't WoW. Just about any top guild was a bag of elitist fuckery. BTW.

Either accept that the "community" you think WoW had is dead, and go play another game, or shut the fuck up already. The only way the WoW community is not complete garbage is by finding a guild of 20-40 some-odd players who don't hate each enough yet. That's how it is, how it always has been, how it always will be.

[Begrudge]

I think you're seriously over-analyzing the importance of this forum.

I think that maybe you will not quit so i am going to recup to your argument with small statements throwing the arguement into a meaningless bickering hoping you will back down becoz when i was growing up my mother and father didnt discipline me properly and now i have confidence issues and can only over come them by arguing and winning arguments over the internet. If i dont win an argument then i wont be able to act like my 12 year old self getting my way and will have to see the reality of the world as it is, unforgiving and totally unapproachable, becoz i was never taught any life skills and didnt pay attention in school, so the only bastion in my life is arguing on forums hoping that I can get someone to see things my way, becoz if they dont then I may have to give into the notion that my life may not be as good as I pretend it to be to everyone who doesnt actually know me but thinks they do becoz of the fake confidence I project onto everyone. Maybe someday when I am older and my mind is feeble and fried from never accomplishing anything or ever becoming more than a "troll" on the internet I will see past my life and see a new way but for now I cannot give up on what I believe and what i believe i will become from aqrguing pointlessly over the internet becoz i have no reality in real life and cant comprehend doing anything real in my real life.

[shimerra]

That's not a fallacy. You don't just get to go "argument I don't like, it's a fallacy!".

It's a valid argument. If you networked better you possibly wouldn't have spent hours looking for groups all the time. The fact that you are complaining that you were regularly "in trade chat for an hour or more" leads me to believe that you didn't have many friends or contacts in other guilds, yes. I can tell you truthfully that I never spent even a full hour putting a party together.

I really don't understand people who complain a "massively multiplayer" game required them to socialise and interact with other people in order to get things done in a timely fashion. Ugh, whatever.

I was in quite a few guilds. Two of them originated as multi-system gaming clans/online forums and had a large base of casuals on top of at one point two successful 25 man raid teams. I also was in a private channel that had members from pretty much every top raiding guild on the server(I play on Mal'Ganis and at the time I'm talking about Mal'Ganis was if not the no. 1 Raiding server it was fighting to be that) that always had a huge amount of players who would regularly offer to ask their guild/friends if anyone was interested in your group. On top of being in an active guild, a private channel specificly made to bring a lot of the top guilds together, I had a very robust friends list. I've also had people in Goon Squad a massive guild for a long time have the issues we're talking about. I had/have an amazing network of players that I've built up over the years and the only time I can say I didn't was in Vanilla when I played extremely casually.

I can truthfully say you're spewing a robust sack of shit. I've spent over an hour looking for a healer for a 10 man where 6/10 members consisted of my real life friends and 2 of us filling a tank and a healer slot. Especially if what you need is a tank or a healer and you don't always raid at peak times grouping can be horribly difficult. And especially towards the end of content people don't always feel like doing shit. And that was on a populated server, back in TBC I had to server transfer off my small time server because unless I basically wanted to stop doing 25 man raiding because after my guild died none existed no matter how fucking social I was.

You can keep pretending all of us who've spent hours looking for groups are just social retards or whatever. But that's not the case.

[Krille]

I think that maybe you will not quit so i am going to recup to your argument with small statements throwing the arguement into a meaningless bickering hoping you will back down becoz when i was growing up my mother and father didnt discipline me properly and now i have confidence issues and can only over come them by arguing and winning arguments over the internet. If i dont win an argument then i wont be able to act like my 12 year old self getting my way and will have to see the reality of the world as it is, unforgiving and totally unapproachable, becoz i was never taught any life skills and didnt pay attention in school, so the only bastion in my life is arguing on forums hoping that I can get someone to see things my way, becoz if they dont then I may have to give into the notion that my life may not be as good as I pretend it to be to everyone who doesnt actually know me but thinks they do becoz of the fake confidence I project onto everyone. Maybe someday when I am older and my mind is feeble and fried from never accomplishing anything or ever becoming more than a "troll" on the internet I will see past my life and see a new way but for now I cannot give up on what I believe and what i believe i will become from aqrguing pointlessly over the internet becoz i have no reality in real life and cant comprehend doing anything real in my real life.

Well that was 99% incorrect. And you should probably stop this amateur-psychology thing, it's more sad than impressive.

[Bonkbonk100]

Don't you people ever get tired of being negative? The constant whining is actually crazy, it's always something. Yes maybe Outland will be seeing less people, not even sure that's true. But for lower population realms this is a good change. Your avatar suits you.

Don't even ever get tired of being negative at people being negative?

One issue tho, he wasn't being negative, you're just overly defensive.

[Krille]

Don't even ever get tired of being negative at people being negative?

One issue tho, he wasn't being negative, you're just overly defensive.

Of what? Blizzard? There's one thing being defensive and defend every single thing they do. Another trying to find logic in the change. They didn't do this to fuck over Gimlix raids in Goldshire.

[nodq]

Hi there. Gimlix. Active MMO-C/WoW user for 5 years now.
Never quit once my subscription. Next to that i make the most fanboy threads over time.
I spent more then 3000 euros on WoW.

Am i a ex player? Nope, neither have i ever been.

Please post something constructive that's actually true

Hmmm, I play since EU release (Feb 2005), maybe you need another 5 Years to get used to it, and how WoW is handled by the developers. I actually stopped caring about such unimportant stuff after the first half of TBC and just enjoyed the game how it was and is and will be instead of complaining and raging at everything that would not be my exact opinion on different things in the game. It is just a waste of energy and time. Play the game, nothing you complain about stops you from playing the actual game and having fun with it, only if you WANT that to happen, otherwise not.

[Lycanroc]

The phasing makes the game not enjoyable for gankers but for everyone else it's fine.

I play on Wyrmrest Accord and pretty much everywhere looks barren. It's a Normal RP server, so not seeing people around roleplaying makes it feel dead and pointless. It wouldn't be so bad if the tech wasn't half as faulty. There's literally no way to taxi into the populated shards because everyone's spread out between them. They somehow made it even worse than GW2's sharding tech, which is also awful but at least there's ways around it.

Main cities look lifeless and sad. I mean, I saw more people around back when I was playing on Blackwater Raiders before xrealm. It takes away about half the enjoyment I derive from the game. Honestly, I just which they had a channel system like a lot of Eastern MMOs where you can swap between more or less populated channels on a whim. It'd fix a lot of issues.

[Deleted]

Sense of community has always been a ridiculously nostalgic point of view, this fanciful belief of some amazing, robust, and cohesive server community is horribly exaggerated.

Even in Vanilla, the most popular guilds only played with their own people and there were many times of sitting in trade looking for a group for BRC or Scholo or UBRS for hours and hours and hours.

how fun and inclusive.

Phasing is amazing and solves a very real problem while ruining a very minor one, if it exists at all.

This was my experience too! Unless you were in an active guild you would spend hours spamming LFG in Org. As for the "just add friends" well my friendlist was reserved for friends not random people to nag for dungeons. The automated LFG system was a god send

[Zyky]

With all the phasing going on. You barely see a small percentage of your server.
There are like 5 different faces going on Outland realm and everytime it gets to crowded you see half the world fading away around you.
This is one of those features who will probably hurt more people then actually help.

I don't see point in MMO's having a feature that makes the world less populated.

And no one can convince me why it's better.
I am playing a MMORPG, i don't want to see 20% of the active players of my server.

Legion is obviously doing quite amazing so far it has shown us. but the new phasing feature, is one of the biggest NO in WoW history.

I understand why they did it, some mobs in outlands/northrend have some really shitty respawns(especially in Zangarmarsh). But the better fix to the issue would have been to just unmerge the stupid servers they clumped together to make servers overpopulated.

[Demithio]

World interaction has been destroyed for a very long time now. They're just adding the finishing touches.

[Soluna]

Simply put, no. I can't agree with you. Why? Cause whether there are 100 or 10 ppl next to me, no one is gonna talk with each other. For me they might as well be npcs who steal my kills. Also it reduces stress on the server and that's the best. Especially for launch. Trust me, if blizz were to take back the phasing feature you would be complaining on launch day 'OH BLIZZ SERVERS SUCKS THEY CAN'T HANDLE A MILLION PLAYERS PER SERVER AT THE SAME LOCATION AT THE SAME TIME HURR DURR'.