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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by ShiyoKozuki View Post
    The lead developer disagrees with you. Sorry.
    the lead dev is also responsibe for utter shit product that was WoD so wtf should anyone care about his opinion ? its quite clear he had to suck some major D.... to not geting fired for such utter failer.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    the lead dev is also responsibe for utter shit product that was WoD so wtf should anyone care about his opinion ? its quite clear he had to suck some major D.... to not geting fired for such utter failer.
    engage hyperbole. It was a fine and alright expansion. Fun was had with friends and we moved forward. certainly not "utter shit" or "utter failure" or worthy of making inner-homorotic references.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by azurrei View Post
    They don't in instanced PvP but they do in world PvP.
    Oh I didn't realize that.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenjen View Post
    engage hyperbole. It was a fine and alright expansion.
    Many people disagree with you on this.

    Back to legion legendaries, they were a terrible idea from the beginning and they need to be nerfed (much) more or even better, removed from the game. Back when you could target the one you need, at least the grind seemed like it would be shorter. Now, you're all forced to grind until your eyes bleed.
    Last edited by Schizoide; 2016-08-28 at 01:54 PM.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by nazrakin View Post
    We knew this was coming, some of them were way too strong. Its best to do it now than wait until people have them in game.
    sadly yes. it was a really big tease for the less than competent crowd. so it will be business like usual that only the hardest of the hard core get the best gear.
    There is no Bad RNG just Bad LTP

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    Many people disagree with you on this.

    Back to legion legendaries, they were a terrible idea from the beginning and they need to be nerfed (much) more or even better, removed from the game. Back when you could target the one you need, at least the grind seemed like it would be shorter. Now, you're all forced to grind until your eyes bleed.
    Dont pick and choose. my entire point consists of all of what i said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenjen View Post
    engage hyperbole. It was a fine and alright expansion. Fun was had with friends and we moved forward. certainly not "utter shit" or "utter failure" or worthy of making inner-homorotic references.
    And those people would be wrong. "many" is a small and subjective number.

    Also the supposed "grind" for these legendaries isn't that long or hard, definately not eye bleeding, even with the multiples. Infact its about as long as the old drop style but from many more sources. Nerfing them was a good thing because atleast now they're not as absolutely mandatory to the point of excluding those who dont have them or their alts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judgementofantonidas View Post
    sadly yes. it was a really big tease for the less than competent crowd. so it will be business like usual that only the hardest of the hard core get the best gear.
    i dont understand this arguement. its not like the hardcore's weren't going to get the legendaries or arent hit by the buffs and nerfs to the legiondaries either. The hardcores are getting gear for their difficulty level, if you want it, go ahead and play it at that level to get it. Its not like its being handed to them.
    Last edited by Tenjen; 2016-08-28 at 03:31 PM.

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenjen View Post



    i dont understand this arguement. its not like the hardcore's weren't going to get the legendaries or arent hit by the buffs and nerfs to the legiondaries either. The hardcores are getting gear for their difficulty level, if you want it, go ahead and play it at that level to get it. Its not like its being handed to them.

    This just goes to show that no matter what you say on these forums there is always someone who will find a way to argue about it. The hard core deserve their rewards. This bait and switch by Blizzard is comical. They had all the casual crowd literally watering at the mouth. Now they will get barely worthwhile legendary.
    There is no Bad RNG just Bad LTP

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by judgementofantonidas View Post
    This just goes to show that no matter what you say on these forums there is always someone who will find a way to argue about it. The hard core deserve their rewards. This bait and switch by Blizzard is comical. They had all the casual crowd literally watering at the mouth. Now they will get barely worthwhile legendary.
    The legendaries are still good. Quite a few were even buffed. In itself proving there was no bait and switch (dont misuse that phrase), they had to be tuned and everyone saw it coming. This isnt a "hardcore vs casual" problem. It doesn't even come into the picture. "Barely worthwhile" is hyperbole since for all classes these drops are still superior and for many, still superior by far, or even more so.

    Infact its a boon, because now people wont be excluded out of spots for people with legionaries. Not as severely.
    Last edited by Tenjen; 2016-08-28 at 04:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Especially when you consider the fact that they tuned fights with entire raids being ringed up in mind. Same thing will happen for Legion, you just hope the curve for required legendaries is somewhat less than required artifact traits.
    Wrong. Every single fight in HFC on each difficulty was killed without the ring. Mythic Archie as well. The ring was added as a natural nerf over time. Just like getting gear upgrades each week the ring acted in the same way. It stopped Blizzard from having to revisit bosses after months to provide nerfs. See ICC buff.

    Then they released item upgrades a few months later providing the same nerf as upgrading the ring.
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  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    That isn't the point. Yes, it was all possible. But they designed it so that the majority of groups would have rings by the time they cleared it. As more rings went out more groups cleared...
    It was balanced around not having rings though.
    That's like saying molten core was designed so that the majority of players doing it could solo it by WOTLK.
    Last edited by ShiyoKozuki; 2016-08-29 at 12:23 AM.

  11. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by methwow View Post
    fire mage ones got buffed not nerfed
    So ..are we back to class stacking? I mean, balancing clearing point at this direction. Nerf pretty much every dps spec while buffing one that is already performing really well. Wonder what dickhead is playing fire mage and desperately needs his raidspot to be a safe bet.

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