Horde died with Garrosh

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At what point does it stop being Horde?

[Ave07]

When Thrall left.

[Baneador]

The Horde is a circus now and Warchief is a death sentence.

[Lady Dragonheart]

In general, especially with Vol'jin leading, yes. However, I have a feeling that Sylvanas may be the better warchief overall, once Legion's content is completely spoken for.

[Nynax]

The Horde is a circus now and Warchief is a death sentence.

Warchief position = to Defense against the dark arts teacher position!

[Twistedelmo]

Sylvannas will be a lot more Diabolical then Garrosh was.

All Hail the Lich Queen!

[Nynax]

In general, especially with Vol'jin leading, yes. However, I have a feeling that Sylvanas may be the better warchief overall, once Legion's content is completely spoken for.

Maybe. I was just thinking that with Thrall and Garrosh I felt a lot more like "For the Horde! let's go crush some fucking skulls!"
But with Sylvanas I feel more like "Boss lady says these guys need to die, so imma go kill them."

And Vol'jin was nonexistent, I was my own boss...he almost doesn't even count.

[Saiona]

Went alliance before siege of org. Garrosh was the hero the Horde needed

[Davemetalhead]

Maybe. I was just thinking that with Thrall and Garrosh I felt a lot more like "For the Horde! let's go crush some fucking skulls!"
But with Sylvanas I feel more like "Boss lady says these guys need to die, so imma go kill them."

And Vol'jin was nonexistent, I was my own boss...he almost doesn't even count.

You get the feeling that Sylvannas will use you to the best of your abilities, both tactically and strategically. Gary would just chuck you on the front line as meat for the grinder.

All hail the Dark Lady.

[Lotus Victoria]

The true Horde died a long time ago. Cairne, Thrall, , now Vol'jin is gone too ...Garrosh was merely a substitute!

[Deleted]

OK transfer to alliance(dont forget to make topic about how costly is)
Sarcasm off

[Vorkreist]

Sylvannas will be a lot more Diabolical then Garrosh was.

All Hail the Lich Queen!

They should rename the horde to something else. The Swarm.
Using orcish specific title on other races is stupid. If you are gonna take a dump on the horde legacy at least change the name.

[Lochton]

The Horde died when Garrosh took over, really, and he then stomped on the grave..

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OK transfer to alliance(dont forget to make topic about how costly is)
Sarcasm off

Inb4 thread, "Alliance died with Varian"

[-Xerxes-]

I "don't agree" on poll but I voted "agree", wrong click..

[Gradingus]

I didn't know the Alliance or Horde changed into other things, just because the people in charge changed or died

Do you think a faction consists of a leader only, or of all it's people?

[Lioo]

Inb4 thread, "Alliance died with Varian"

"broke into pieces" fits better here.

[Raetary]

the horde died after that bitchfest of a hellscream took over.

[Absintheminded]

Fuck Garrosh. Thrall is my Warchief, regardless who is called that this week or next, and regardless of how shitty they've written him since Cata.

[Darknessvamp]

The Horde died with the actions of Garrosh at the end of his reign and then the corpse got beaten when Gamon wasn't made Warchief.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

However, I have a feeling that Sylvanas may be the better warchief overall, once Legion's content is completely spoken for.

Except the first thing she does in Legion content is run off on her own without telling anyone where she is going or what she is doing. Not great leadership material.