Legion Broke the Auction House

[Noxina]

Can't say I have ran into any of these problems, but then again I use TSM (Trade Skill Master), and it works just fine. Not a high pop server (about 1.5k in queues at peek times after launch).

[Foj]

No it is a complaint about a broken feature. It's just that the sellers that post 1000 auctions of one stack are probably the root cause, that's why those complaints are relevant.

Even for those of us who are experienced AH goblins, the people who post 283429 auctions of 1 herb are a fucking pain in the ass. IMO people who do that should be banned for "exploitation of the economy." But that's unreasonable, because the problem is that Blizzard doesn't do anything to restrain this horseshit, and thus Blizzard enables the fuckery.

I put up with it, because I somewhat have workarounds, but I would wrap chains around those assholes and drop them in a muddy lake if I had the option.

Well christ that's good to know! I refuse to run auction mods on any character but my specialized auction dude because they always manage to wreck my framerate or explode in a shower of errors during a dungeon (which, even though caught, smash my FPS), but that'll help!

TSM has no negative effect on your frame rate, assuming you're not trying it on the first few days of the pre-patch when Blizzard created a brand new item caching behavior/bug that is still a rancid piece of shit plague on the game.

However, TSM is also a bizzarely designed piece of weirdness that I don't blame anyone for avoiding.

[Ealyssa]

Yeah you're right. I made it all up. So did all the other people who claimed they are having AH problems. The AH is working fine. /s

Yeah you're right. And the 500k gold I made from the ah since launch are totally non existent because obviously AH is broken and nobody can sell or buy anything.

This doesn't fix every problem with the AH, but I'll admit I didn't know this, if it works I'll drink a beer in your honor.

You're the smart one of your family right ?
Calling names, not knowing how to even use AH. <3

PEBCAK issues as usual with the smartest gamers . Obviously AH is super charged, obviously AH will be slower with 50+ pages of everything. But it's working like it's intended to work. Nothing blizzard can really do, and the "herp its teh 1 item sellerz dat are ruining ma game" isn't the right answer...

[anon5123]

Did tou read the post? Even with the addon it's impossible. I use auctionator. By the time it processed the 50 pages of ore and I click buyout, it has to rescan and the stack is already sold. Every time.

Yeah, when I go to buy something, it sits there for like 30-60 seconds before I can finally buy the item. Really annoying.

[Foj]

Yeah, when I go to buy something, it sits there for like 30-60 seconds before I can finally buy the item. Really annoying.

The AH's server side caching is completely fucked. There are lots of nonexistent items listed, especially green armor. (Because, people sniping for DE, and the AH not having fresh data.)

[Torched]

The GW2 system I felt was pretty robust for the most part.

Want to buy? Find the item, and it shows the lowest price. Need 100, but only 20 of the lowest price? It buys 20, and you buy 80 of the next price up.

Want to sell? Post the item, and it simply marks it 1c cheaper than the last one, so yours will be bought first. Lowest goes fastest. Lots of competition? Pull it and repost at lowest.

ye GW2 has a beast of an auction house

[Ifeanychukwu]

I completely agree. Ignoring the "just use an addon" people I definitely feel like it's time for an updated AH. As someone playing on Stormrage it's really annoying searching for mats and seeing 5,000 postings of one item. The bit about work orders sounds like an amazing idea. It would be awesome to have the ability to just put in an order and have it automatically purchased as it's posted so you don't have to constantly check back if what you're looking for isn't currently in the AH.

[Foj]

I completely agree. Ignoring the "just use an addon" people I definitely feel like it's time for an updated AH. As someone playing on Stormrage it's really annoying searching for mats and seeing 5,000 postings of one item. The bit about work orders sounds like an amazing idea. It would be awesome to have the ability to just put in an order and have it automatically purchased as it's posted so you don't have to constantly check back if what you're looking for isn't currently in the AH.

EVE's auction system works like something from the 21st century not the 18th century. There are no EVE addons because no one needs EVE addons. (There are spreadsheet fanatics but EVE supports that play style.) Blizzard should aspire to that.

I should probably have said the 10th century because WoW's AH is in the fucking dark ages.

[Zka]

Yes, the AH is brutally slow and the bid sort is ridiculous. Also, want to have BUY ORDERS like in EVE Online.

[jsz]

people saying "its fine" are on low pop realms. i havent been able to buy ore on Sargeras-US since launch. it just wont happen. period.

[Foj]

I completely agree. Ignoring the "just use an addon" people I definitely feel like it's time for an updated AH. As someone playing on Stormrage it's really annoying searching for mats and seeing 5,000 postings of one item. The bit about work orders sounds like an amazing idea. It would be awesome to have the ability to just put in an order and have it automatically purchased as it's posted so you don't have to constantly check back if what you're looking for isn't currently in the AH.

Well, you see, stock and commodity markets have all these nifty things, the simplest of which are "market orders" and "limit orders."

They worked fine on paper for 500 years (stock markets have existed since before the Renaissance). Then they worked fine on computers for several more decades extending to the present. Alas, no one at Blizzard is able to access any of the experience or wisdom involved in the operation of markets since Hamlet was written. I guess that's the Medieval fantasy.

[Hawg]

The stock UI auction house has always been an enormous liquid bowel movement. As time goes on it becomes more urgent and more cabbagy and more explosive.

There's no simple fix for the WoW AH but here are two simple things Blizzard could do:

(1) Limit any one account's posting of items to no more than 10 stacks (of any size) of any particular item. So you can post 10 stacks of 300 different items (= 3000 stacks) but not 11 stacks of one item. This will hurt no one.

(2) Require mobile AH users to get their gold by opening one mail at a time with a 1 sec delay per mail.

That would get rid of most of the completely ridiculous bullshit. But still, in order to buy anything from the AH in a non-insane manner, for now and until Blizzard completely reworks the AH into something EVE-like, you will need an addon.

I like this

[Djuntas]

Agree 1000%

But this is blzzzard we are talking about. They SUCK ass, so bad its a joke at anything UI. All there games since WoW have had horrible UI's....If WoW didnt have addon support I wouldent even play it.

[Deleted]

Considering the AH won't be changing anytime soon just find an alternate solution.

You could always trade player to player...

[Foj]

Considering the AH won't be changing anytime soon just find an alternate solution.

You could always trade player to player...

I seriously doubt we will have this AH beyond the end of Legion. It's too much of a problem, and it is horrifically in the way of the One True Server (well, 4 True Servers) that Blizzard is headed toward.

But until Blizzard completely overhauls it, which I assure you is high on the too-much-habanero "ring of fire" list back at Chiltonville, we're just fucked.

[Lightwysh]

I use auctionlite. I have 0 issues with "scanning". I plunk my stuff in, it auto undercuts and I hit post. When buying I search, tell it how many on said item I want and click "buy". If it's 1000 stacks of one I just sit there and spam buy until it buys everything I selected.

[chooi]

It's not broken.

It's just a lot of idiots posting gazillions of single items combined with a 13y-old AH engine resulting in hundreds or thousands of pages that need to be searched through. Slowly.

The AH needs a complete overhaul. That's the only solution to this problem. Either a model similar to how Gametoken is handled or AHs from games like GW2 or EVE would be fine for me.

[Ragedaug]

Just restating for relevance, but as folks have noted, even the addons are broken. The addon still takes a minute to load all the ore, and if you are buying, there's a good chance that what you want is gone by the time the scan finishes. I had to go back to the default UI to buy some herbs because after several very long scans I still could not buy anything.

[Deleted]

You are what's wrong with this world. Posting single-stacks on the AH takes a special kind of evil.

No its called capitalism. deal with it

[Deianeira]

It's worth noting that your post include hyperbole, whining, and is moronic. Was that meant to be parody?

Legion did "break" the AH, at least on high population servers. Now I don't know if its due to increased use, DDOS attacks, or something else, but prior to Legion going live you could buy matts from the AH on high-pop servers, now you can't. That is broken.

Actually i can buy just as fine since i know that I am rarely that fast that i manage to buy the first few rows of items so i just buy like, so pls dont say that you cant buy materials in Legion. Because you know SOMEONE bought the auctions you get the message "that auction dont exist" Also if you expect the "scan" to run just as fast with 100+ pages of items as it is with 10+pages