Democratic Election 2016 - Hillary Clinton Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Moralgy]

So apparently Hillary was coughing at a rally or something, I wonder how long before it stokes the flames of "bad health" people.

[Edge-]

So apparently Hillary was coughing at a rally or something, I wonder how long before it stokes the flames of "bad health" people.

Well, it's already got an article on Breitbart and it was trending on Facebook for a bit. Abandon ship, she's on life support, I tell you.

[May90]

But casinos are literally rigged to win the house more money than the patrons that go into it. EVERY GAME inside it are designed to do that. The only way, you can lose as a casino, is if you are a BAD BUSINESSMAN. You know, no advertising, no promotions, no nothing to get people into the casino. That or you start doing what he did when he started his presidential run. By saying such things as he did and losing his job at NBC, the Miss Universe pageant, and a few others. This was posted in December of last year of the deals he has lost just by the bullshit rhetoric he has said. http://fortune.com/2016/09/05/scotla...n-miscarriage/

If you think the casinos offer to their owners easy profit, then you might be a bit idealistic. From what I understand, casino is a very competitive business, in which you have to spend a lot of money on maintenance, advertisement, promotions, etc., if you want to stay on the market. And while it is true that casinos are pretty much rigged, they can't be rigged too much: they still have to give the customers a real chance to win something, otherwise no one will visit them and they will crumble under their own weight.

[ringpriest]

She is not going to win. Which is the best outcome for the rest of the world.

How can I possibly argue with a tweet from an actor and a stock photo? It's almost as persuasive as the traveling circus of hate that masquerades as Trump's so-called "campaign".

[akris15]

How can I possibly argue with a tweet from an actor and a stock photo? It's almost as persuasive as the traveling circus of hate that masquerades as Trump's so-called "campaign".

It only took me a minute to look into this...

http://www.gettyimages.com/license/484300116 (its even watermarked)

1. This isn't even Clinton this is Sen. Debbie Stabenow. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Stabenow)
2. Clinton wasn't even there (apparently she was at the Iowa State Fair that date) because...
3. This was a Bernie Sanders stump stop at a picnic (which tend to be small anyways) advocating for Clinton. Some idiot didn't realize having someone going after your "main event" (Sanders) is going to cause the crowd to disappear after he speaks.

[Orbitus]

It only took me a minute to look into this...

http://www.gettyimages.com/license/484300116 (its even watermarked)

1. This isn't even Clinton this is Sen. Debbie Stabenow. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Stabenow)
2. Clinton wasn't even there (apparently she was at the Iowa State Fair that date) because...
3. This was a Bernie Sanders stump stop at a picnic (which tend to be small anyways) advocating for Clinton. Some idiot didn't realize having someone going after your "main event" (Sanders) is going to cause the crowd to disappear after he speaks.

Why am I not surprised that not only was I right, that it wasn't Clinton, but it wasn't even the date that it said it was. So both Cybran and James Woods was lying. I guess taking after Cheeto Jesus is in the party.

[TrumpIsPresident]

So what happens when she has another coughing fit during a debate and has to walk off stage?

And wow, the balls on that reporter to not only keep rolling but actually walk off her plane with that tape.

You can bet your ass hes banned from all future Hillary events.

[akris15]

I didn't realize coughing disqualify people from the presidency now...

[hrugner]

I didn't realize coughing disqualify people from the presidency now...

Everyone knows it's not serious till they cough blood into their hand.

[Garnier Fructis]

On the subject of Hillary's health: if she croaks, we get Kaine as president. Still better than Trump, and arguably better than Clinton herself.

Plus we still get Taco trucks everywhere, so I'm not really seeing the problem.

[Cybran]

On the subject of Hillary's health: if she croaks, we get Kaine as president. Still better than Trump, and arguably better than Clinton herself.

Kaine looks like Hannibal Lecter wearing someone else's face. He looks like your child molesting uncle.

[akris15]

Kaine looks like Hannibal Lecter wearing someone else's face. He looks like your child molesting uncle.

I would suggest you don't go down that route of making judgement from still pictures from live tv feeds. There are plenty of those out on the internet of Trump that is just as bad and honestly if this is your line of attack quite petty. If you are going to attack do it based on the issues and not appearances...

[Garnier Fructis]

Kaine looks like Hannibal Lecter wearing someone else's face. He looks like your child molesting uncle.

[Cybran]

Figures that Hillary supporters will switch to full one whataboutism mode when they are out of arguments. Same with the picture of Putin.

[Garnier Fructis]

Figures that Hillary supporters will switch to full one whataboutism mode when they are out of arguments. Same with the picture of Putin.

Whataboutism is quite an appropriate response to silly posts.

[Orbitus]

I would suggest you don't go down that route of making judgement from still pictures from live tv feeds. There are plenty of those out on the internet of Trump that is just as bad and honestly if this is your line of attack quite petty. If you are going to attack do it based on the issues and not appearances...

Kinda like this popular one I always see:

If I didn't know he was speaking to a crowd, I would say that he is trying to tell the shit in his ass to get out while he is bearing down taking a shit.

[timberx]

So what happens when she has another coughing fit during a debate and has to walk off stage?

And wow, the balls on that reporter to not only keep rolling but actually walk off her plane with that tape.

You can bet your ass hes banned from all future Hillary events.

Wait what? Coughing like a real human? You mean she's not a lizard person?

[Fargus]

Wait what? Coughing like a real human? You mean she's not a lizard person?

She's had multiple coughing fits though. Long ones. Don't pretend she's healthy.

[TrumpIsPresident]

Wait what? Coughing like a real human? You mean she's not a lizard person?

Yes yes I know its just a vast Right-Wing "healter" conspiracy.

Except, here's the thing ...its not.

A President's health is critically important which is why they have a personal physician that regularly screens them.

Its not because "hey its the President so lets give them the best of the best" its because very serious matters can be at stake when a President is incapacitated at a critical moment.

The Constitution speaks only briefly on what happens when a President is temporarily unable to fulfill their duties in such that said duties shall devolve on to the Vice President.

But that's where it ends, there's no mention of by what terms, or by who, such a temporary incapacitation to be determined, nor when power should be transferred.

The 25th Amendment has two ways in which power can lawfully be transferred to the VP.

Either the President signs a letter informing Congress that he is unable to fulfill his duties or if the VP, the majority of Congress, and a stack of other executive offers all agree and sign a declaration of their own.

Problem is there is the weak point in the process where a) a President is either unwilling or unable to sign such a document, or b) Congress is not in session and/or the other participants are not immediately available to do their part.

Not such a big deal if its something that is planned before hand but what happens if the President unexpectedly becomes incapacitated at during a critical moment such as a national security event?

There wouldn't be time to bring together all the necessary parities and a power void would exist where the only person who could issue orders would be the very President that is unable to issue then.

So, health matters ...it matters a lot.

It is 100% justified and necessary to question any and every candidates health, especially someone like Hillary Clinton who is old and already has a complicated medical history.

There is absolutely no reason to allow this issue to fall into the pit of partisan bickering, but sadly and dangerously that is whats currently happening in the media's all out crusade to defend Hillary Clinton.

Please take a moment and read this article, its gives some history on the matter and some commentary from a respected informed bi-partisan practicing physician.

I cut out some parts because its quite long but it highlights the dangerous game Hillary, and to a lesser extend Trump, is playing here.

We citizens have an absolute right to question the health of our President and no amount of hard-line militancy, nor politically divisive media, nor meme-of-the-month labels will change that.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/31/no-re...ommentary.html

It's always been an odd argument to make: A 68-year-old woman running for president with blood clots who suffered a concussion in recent years isn't allowed to have her medical condition questioned or even broached.

To do so, critics, especially those on CNN and CNN.com, said it would be engaging in peddling conspiracy theories.

Enter Dr. David Scheiner, a former physician to President Barack Obama, on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront" on Tuesday night who had the audacity to raise a number of questions around both the health of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and the transparency surrounding it.

"There are a number of questions I have," said Scheiner, who was the president's physician for 21 years. "First of all, she's also 68 years old, and while I think that letter was well-written and very professional, unlike Dr Bornstein's (Donald Trump's doctor), it's not enough.

"For example, she's on Coumadin, a medication to prevent blood clots," he continued. "You have to monitor that and it says she's being monitored regularly, I'd like to know how well she's being controlled. That's a difficult drug to use."

Clinton's last released a letter from her internist in July 2015. Her campaign has vowed not to release anything else related to her medical records before Election Day.

[...]

The questioning of Clinton and Trump's medical history is objective and refreshing in the otherwise polarized world of cable news. Because lately it seems that — depending on which candidate one is rooting for — the scrutiny only focuses only on one side.

[...]

"This is a very unusual story with Hillary," said Lahita on Fox Business recently, pointing to the two blood clots she's been diagnosed with in the past. "The very fact that she's having these clots and she's had two bouts of thrombosis is disconcerting, to say the least."

[...]

From now to Election Day, the media needs to press both to release their records the same way John McCain did. Not one page or two pages of generalities without specifics, but more along the lines of the 1,173 pages the Arizona senator did in 2008 when the media was 20 times more interested in his fitness for the highest office in the land than they are about Clinton and Trump, who are about the same age as he was when seeking the presidency.

[...]

Over last weekend, Huffington Post contributor David Seamon was barred by the popular publication for raising questions around Clinton's medical condition in articulate and professional fashion.

HuffPo even went so far to delete his last two articles in an act that can only be deemed censorship. "It's chilling. I still haven't really absorbed it," he shared in a video posted Sunday.

[LilSaihah]

Morning consult? Is it right wing?

"Bad poll. Must be right wing!"