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    Time travel expansion to the future?

    Thinking about the Anduin comic, at the end they show us he's an old man standing with Velen ready to assault presumably Argus.

    This level of forshadowing is intentional as it shows us a glimpse of a future historical event. But in this scene Anduin is at least 50 years old. He's assumed to be about 18 right now. Each expansion in our timeline only takes up about 1-2 years.

    So unless they showing us what will happen in 40 expansions, we have to presume this event is relatively near.

    It opens up a lot of possible kid developments like LiLi and Durak Thralls son.

    Thoughts?
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    I hope we NEVER see anymore time travel, back or forth..

    So far, nothing good, have come from it..
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    I think they are trying to mislead us and Anduin simply gets the Khadgar treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    I hope we NEVER see anymore time travel, back or forth..

    So far, nothing good, have come from it..
    not true! we had the Old Hilsbrad dungeon (apart from the ability to start the escort quest before the rest of the group handed the first part in, it was a great dungeon. extra nostalgia after cataclysm) and the Warcraft 3 revisits of Mount Hyjal and Stratholme. the Darrowshire questline in classic was a great chain and travel to old versions of Theramore and Blasted Lands made questing remain possible in those zones

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    I think Anduin gets aged and time passes normally

    assault on Argus next expansion or the expansion after that

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayvio View Post
    not true! we had the Old Hilsbrad dungeon (apart from the ability to start the escort quest before the rest of the group handed the first part in, it was a great dungeon. extra nostalgia after cataclysm) and the Warcraft 3 revisits of Mount Hyjal and Stratholme. the Darrowshire questline in classic was a great chain and travel to old versions of Theramore and Blasted Lands made questing remain possible in those zones
    The occasional quest or instance is cool and all, but when it's an entire expansion everything gets stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Challenge View Post
    Thinking about the Anduin comic, at the end they show us he's an old man standing with Velen ready to assault presumably Argus.

    This level of forshadowing is intentional as it shows us a glimpse of a future historical event. But in this scene Anduin is at least 50 years old. He's assumed to be about 18 right now. Each expansion in our timeline only takes up about 1-2 years.

    So unless they showing us what will happen in 40 expansions, we have to presume this event is relatively near.

    It opens up a lot of possible kid developments like LiLi and Durak Thralls son.

    Thoughts?
    Argus is home to the Burning Legion, which we should probably seeing in the next expansion or the one after. Velen states that the battle is against the "shadow".

    AFAIK, shadow = void lords (like shadow priests). And I think, its more of declaration of how warcraft's greatest battle is going to happen. And Anduin will probably mature all through those years without getting Khadgar treatment. I feel thats needed for him to be a leader of that scale.

    Honestly, I just feel that Blizzard is keeping their options open by declaring the endgame. Either they will do the storytelling by a single player game or through WoW itself. I guess their objective was to tell us "this is where the story is heading".
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    Maybe they are trying to add some realism to him. Look at pictures of any of the POTUS over the last 3 decades right before they get into office then other ones about 2 years into their term. It looks like they age a decade. So imagine a child trying to deal with the death of his father and now the very real chance of the death of his planet and race. He is going to look like a 1 year old Benjamin Button by the end of the expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Challenge View Post
    Thinking about the Anduin comic, at the end they show us he's an old man standing with Velen ready to assault presumably Argus.

    This level of forshadowing is intentional as it shows us a glimpse of a future historical event. But in this scene Anduin is at least 50 years old. He's assumed to be about 18 right now. Each expansion in our timeline only takes up about 1-2 years.

    So unless they showing us what will happen in 40 expansions, we have to presume this event is relatively near.

    It opens up a lot of possible kid developments like LiLi and Durak Thralls son.

    Thoughts?
    Time travel and alternate dimensions don't belong in any story that's worth a damn! In that regard, AU Draenor and AU Gul'dan were mistakes.

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    god i really hope not

    its not like i am against time travel in general but enough with it in WoW tbh.

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    Argus is the stronghold of the Burning Legion and presumably Kil'jaeden's citadel is located there. But it isn't the end of the Buning Legion since we have to deal with a Titan that is two times bigger than Argus itself.

    Also from what I've seen there are strong implications that Argus is going to be patch content for this expansion. If that is true then that flashforward isn't about striking Argus... it may not even be related to Burning Legion at all. Look at Velen's quote; "The Light shall triumph over Shadow this day." maybe they are marching towards Void Lords or something related to that? Dunno.

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    I would like it. Example - at the final battle in Legion we close portal but something goes wrong. This something throw us (PC heroes) forward in future. In next expansion we arrive in completely changed Azeroth where we won battle at Tomb of Sargares but BL still won war.

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    For me everything points to Argus becoming a patch for this Expansion. Hell this Expansion is called LEGION. We should put an end to this threat with this. (Meaning the BL itself, maybe Sargeras too, but not necessarily)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrok View Post
    Time travel and alternate dimensions don't belong in any story that's worth a damn! In that regard, AU Draenor and AU Gul'dan were mistakes.
    The tv show Fringe used alternate dimensions and it was good.

    On topic: Everyone is talking about time travel, but why not just a time jump? The Demon Hunters intro questline has the player in statis for a few years. Same thing could happen to the player at the end of this expansion (or we go to a place where time moves at a different speed or something like that). So we wake up / return half a century later. Imagine the new storylines it could open.
    To bridge the gap, we could have :
    Last patch : Legion fails to stay on Azeroth and we take the fight to them.
    Pre-Event : We fail and are put in stasis or we go to a place where time is different.
    First patch of next exp : OldAnduin come to us aboard the Exodar and frees us / meet us for the first raid : Kil'Jaeden Palace.
    That way, we finish up the current storyline (which will probably spill into next exp) and we can start to move slowly to the Void part of the big story or a wildly different Azeroth (Azshara won't be in stasis!).
    No time travel, no alternate dimensions.
    Just my two cents.

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    No more time travel and no more other planets, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryl59 View Post
    The tv show Fringe used alternate dimensions and it was good.

    On topic: Everyone is talking about time travel, but why not just a time jump? The Demon Hunters intro questline has the player in statis for a few years. Same thing could happen to the player at the end of this expansion (or we go to a place where time moves at a different speed or something like that). So we wake up / return half a century later. Imagine the new storylines it could open.
    To bridge the gap, we could have :
    Last patch : Legion fails to stay on Azeroth and we take the fight to them.
    Pre-Event : We fail and are put in stasis or we go to a place where time is different.
    First patch of next exp : OldAnduin come to us aboard the Exodar and frees us / meet us for the first raid : Kil'Jaeden Palace.
    That way, we finish up the current storyline (which will probably spill into next exp) and we can start to move slowly to the Void part of the big story or a wildly different Azeroth (Azshara won't be in stasis!).
    No time travel, no alternate dimensions.
    Just my two cents.
    Because a lot of people are invested in the direction of the story and jumping 20-30 years into the future kinda ruins all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbugged View Post
    No more time travel and no more other planets, please.

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    Because a lot of people are invested in the direction of the story and jumping 20-30 years into the future kinda ruins all that.
    Sure, it is a very valid argument. But the direction of the story doesn't change in this configuration : we still go to Argus to finish off Kil'jaeden, we will still fight the Void and Azshara, etc. My main problem with the story is that over a decade, we stopped the end of the world almost every year. The same characters are used and reused because we can't have a big <insert class> pop-up out of nowhere. If we jump, most current lore characters will still be there (older sure), but there will be a lot of new blood. We are the masters of our class orders now. If we disappear for half a century, we can expect new characters at the helm of the orders and even if we will be "heroes of old", we won't be at the center of everything like now.
    It will also let the revelations of Legion sink into the narrative. In-game world just learn that the Titans are no more, that the Void is a great threat, that we live on a Titan, etc.
    It will also give us quest that let us see parts of the decades we lost, like main events and stuff.
    I would like it, but I totally see why others wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbugged View Post
    No more time travel and no more other planets, please.
    No more time travel? Of course. No more other planets? Why? It is an excellent chance to bring more races and cultures to Warcraft and expand the story really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My User Name View Post
    No more time travel? Of course. No more other planets? Why? It is an excellent chance to bring more races and cultures to Warcraft and expand the story really.
    There's a lot left to be done in Azeroth. Future planets maybe 3-4 expansions from now? Idk I really liked Cataclysm and MoP much more than BC and WoD. Creating a bunch of new planets often gives us self-contained lore regarding that planet only, ya dig?

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