Colin Kaepernick: I won't stand 'to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses

[anyaka21]

Crime in the US is a worldwide statistic? And that information doesn't show anything even remotely like what I was asking for(even if it still only pertained to the US). Reading must be hard for racists.

took a quick google search, this is really the only one seemingly pertaining to what you are looking for.

http://www.euvolution.com/articles/crime.html

secondary, UK stat wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a...United_Kingdom

[Theinquisition]

I didn't say it was, but if people of all races who are in similar socioeconomic situations commit crimes at a similar rate then the racist assumption that it's just n****** being n****** doesn't really hold up. The correct correlation is that it's poor people being poor people.

Other races that have been faced with adversity haven't allowed their culture degrade to one that disregards education and glorifies criminality like the urban African American culture has.

Unless you believe in Asian privledge

[spinner981]

Crime in the US is a worldwide statistic? And that information doesn't show anything even remotely like what I was asking for(even if it still only pertained to the US). Reading must be hard for racists.

Sorry, were not talking about worldwide crime. That's just you. The statistics you are asking for don't exist because there is no such thing as global crime statistics by race that somehow remove the impact of socioeconomic status. You are asking an impossible question which you imply should show 'answers' that support your radical agenda, because the ACTUAL facts and statistics disprove your point.

Reading must be hard for racist cop haters.

[anyaka21]

And since that's a conspiracy theory website that hasn't been updated since 2000... Try again?

all things considered, I did say you'd find a way to dismiss anything that you disagree with. Hell, even in the 1st few paragraphs, it basically said what you want to find out, if you had actually read any of it, pretty much doesn't exist.

Why?

Different countries have different race populations, different laws, different statistical record keeping, etc..

[Theinquisition]

There are gangs of every race. There are people from every race who, when faced with diversity, commit all the crimes on the books for their families survival(or to get ahead in the world they live in). Just stop with your racist white power BS Tony.

Oh Lord lol....

"You don't agree with me? You must be a racist!!".

Get over yourself sjw.

[anyaka21]

There are gangs of every race. There are people from every race who, when faced with diversity, commit all the crimes on the books for their families survival(or to get ahead in the world they live in). Just stop with your racist white power BS Tony.

when faced with diversity.....such a terrible thing when people are confronted with different cultures and skin colors that they'll commit any crime to get rid of the other skin color...

You stop with your racist BS!!!!....

[Bapestar]

Other races that have been faced with adversity haven't allowed their culture degrade to one that disregards education and glorifies criminality like the urban African American culture has.

Unless you believe in Asian privledge

That may have been the case 20 years ago, but definitely not true at all today. And no not all of the black community glorifies criminality.

[anyaka21]

That may have been the case 20 years ago, but definitely not true at all today. And no not all of the black community glorifies criminality.

While that's true, the ones that get the headlines typically are though.

[Felya]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-big-numbers/

Fans buying Colin Kaepernick jerseys in big numbers

UPDATE 7:37 a.m. ET: Shortly after we posted this item, Kaepernick’s jersey moved up to the No. 1 best seller spot.

[PhaelixWW]

Fans buying Colin Kaepernick jerseys in big numbers

To hell with that... I want to see sales numbers on lighter fluid and matches.

[Kraenen]

[Citation Needed]

http://canadiancrc.com/Fatherlessnes...in_Canada.aspx

Father-deprivation is a more reliable predictor of criminal activity than race, environment or poverty.

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That may have been the case 20 years ago, but definitely not true at all today. And no not all of the black community glorifies criminality.

AAs used to be doing a lot better in some key ways (outside discrimination/wealth accumulation). It's only within the last 50 or so years this 'black redneck' attitude has prevailed.

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There are gangs of every race. There are people from every race who, when faced with diversity, commit all the crimes on the books for their families survival(or to get ahead in the world they live in). Just stop with your racist white power BS Tony.

This is kind of superficial, ironically. Some demographics do better/worse even while having those thuggish elements.

[anyaka21]

http://canadiancrc.com/Fatherlessnes...in_Canada.aspx


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AAs used to be doing a lot better in some key ways (outside discrimination/wealth accumulation). It's only within the last 50 or so years this 'black redneck' attitude has prevailed.

In terms of the last 50 years, that would mean this can almost be directly attribuable to jesse Jackson and Al shaprton

[Dextroden]

In terms of the last 50 years, that would mean this can almost be directly attribuable to jesse Jackson and Al shaprton

You can safely lay the way some things have rolled out at their feet and the feet of modern activism. You have to learn everyone is out to get from somewhere.

[anyaka21]

You can safely lay the way some things have rolled out at their feet and the feet of modern activism. You have to learn everyone is out to get from somewhere.

what I meant was that it reminded me of a Booker T Washington quote from around 1900 give or take a 10yrs, if not mistaken:

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

http://www.goodreads.com/author/quot...r_T_Washington

And Jesse and Al have basically been the guys that are and have been profiting from it, and as thus it is their business to make sure racism is kept alive and well in America.

[Dextroden]

what I meant was that it reminded me of a Booker T Washington quote from around 1900 give or take a 10yrs, if not mistaken:

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

http://www.goodreads.com/author/quot...r_T_Washington

And Jesse and Al have basically been the guys that are and have been profiting from it, and as thus it is their business to make sure racism is kept alive and well in America.

Exactly. You can't a thriving black activist community if they have no dragons to fight. The country will always be "racist" and black people will always be "oppressed".

There must always be a Lich King. Er, I mean, systemic racism.

[Bapestar]

what I meant was that it reminded me of a Booker T Washington quote from around 1900 give or take a 10yrs, if not mistaken:

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

http://www.goodreads.com/author/quot...r_T_Washington

And Jesse and Al have basically been the guys that are and have been profiting from it, and as thus it is their business to make sure racism is kept alive and well in America.

Yea but they aren't the only ones keeping racism alive. Even if, they are actually doing what you guys are claiming.

[RickJamesLich]

Yea but they aren't the only ones keeping racism alive. Even if, they are actually doing what you guys are claiming.

I don't even know if you can really say those guy's are fighting racism though. A lot of people that interact with them say that they are in their business just for the money, which problems hurts their cause and in the effort strengthens actual racism, because they take away from the credibility of legit claims.

I think most sane people understand that racism exists, I think the problem is the left is considering things racist simply because they do not like what they are hearing, regardless of it actually being racist. I'm not saying they do this all the time but we see this A LOT, to the point where it's been a running gag. What's sad about it is that there is actual racism that does happen, but guy's like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson cry wolf so much that people don't take the issue seriously.

[Ramahan]

He is asking to be blacklisted from the NFL. His career is over, cut him and move on.

As a Vet I believe that if he is blacklisted by the NFL because of his stance on the Pledge then the NFL is then stomping all over the Pledge, which was written by Socialist in the early in 1892, as well as the Constitution, and the Star Spangled Banner ( and I will bet few even know of the third stansa). The folks who scream the loudest about his kneeling are the same folks who ignore the Constitution due to their "Religious Beliefs!!!

Most usually the people making the biggest stink are the conservatives even though most of them have in one way or another kept from ever being members of the Military. Of the members of the GOP currently elected to Congress only one, McCain, as ever served in the Military yet I hear no outcry that they disrespected their nation by avoiding the draft or making decisions about our Military without having actually served.

[anyaka21]

As a Vet I believe that if he is blacklisted by the NFL because of his stance on the Pledge then the NFL is then stomping all over the Pledge, which was written by Socialist in the early in 1892, as well as the Constitution, and the Star Spangled Banner ( and I will bet few even know of the third stansa). The folks who scream the loudest about his kneeling are the same folks who ignore the Constitution due to their "Religious Beliefs!!!

Most usually the people making the biggest stink are the conservatives even though most of them have in one way or another kept from ever being members of the Military. Of the members of the GOP currently elected to Congress only one, McCain, as ever served in the Military yet I hear no outcry that they disrespected their nation by avoiding the draft or making decisions about our Military without having actually served.

To be fair, most people had issue with the way he handled this at the beginning of this.

1. He sat for all of pre-season without saying anything to anyone. It wasn't until week 3 that it was recognized doing it.
2. He didn't say anything before he started doing this, thus when he was asked, it seemed more about hating everything america, even though he was saying the opposite.
3. One of the biggest purposes of the Anthem at the beginning of a football is to honor the military, veterans, etc... Sitting and ignoring that, seemed in many ways, extremely disrespectful for those that fought and bled an died for his freedoms, esp a lot of african americans.
4. When he talked about it, he never said he was doing anything other than sitting. This kind of mirrors point 2 in that he didn't talk about this ahead of time. Mainly because sitting really isn't doing anything, and it almost seemed more like a semi/fake protest to garner attention and force a trade. Or just talking about it and not really doing anything about it, which is really just doing nothing.

That's why people had issue with it.

Now that he's talking about issues, doing things like pledging part of his salary, kneeling in respect instead of sitting and ignoring, this has pretty much changed the entire message.

[Kraenen]

I made no statements about the people thriving or not, just that many people joins gangs regardless of race. Soooooo, what's your point?

Do you think ever group has the same portion of gangsters?