Democratic Election 2016 - Hillary Clinton Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Saiona]

What bums me out about this health shit is everyone will forget about the basket of deplorable comment she made. Called millions of people irredeemable but gets a pass :/

[Moralgy]

DNC are planning on an emergency meeting to consider a replacement.

But it's no big deal, she was just dehydrated.

Where are you seeing this? I see this guy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Shuster, talking of a secret meeting but nothing otherwise.

[Theodarzna]

What bums me out about this health shit is everyone will forget about the basket of deplorable comment she made. Called millions of people irredeemable but gets a pass :/

Pssssttttt..... She is of the correct and media approved nature, she is allowed to be evil.

[alexw]

What bums me out about this health shit is everyone will forget about the basket of deplorable comment she made. Called millions of people irredeemable but gets a pass :/

She's right though. You just need to look at these boards and see all the Trump supporters who end up getting infracted for racism, sexism, extreme homophobia, and other types of basket deplorable. There's loads of em, I've seen 4 banned in just the last two days (Jingoism, Incredibale, Bumkin, sztyrymytyry). Add them up across the population and they add up to many millions and make up a sizeable fraction of Trump's supporter base. Maybe not 50% but certainly beyond single digits.

But I can understand why you don't like the comment. No-one likes getting called out for associating with scum or being scum themselves.

[Venant]

Pssssttttt..... She is of the correct and media approved nature, she is allowed to be evil.

She's with the side that gives the media its marching orders. Why do you think that all of these people you see hosting the cable news programs are getting multi million dollar contracts? Why do you think we only know about her collapse because of some guy with a phone and a twitter account, because the media was ordered to stand down and they obeyed. Why aren't we getting updates from Chappaqua, with media teams camping out on the street in front of Hillary's compound? Oh yeah, they have been issued stand down orders.

Its completely absurd.

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She's right though. You just need to look at these boards and see all the Trump supporters who end up getting infracted for racism, sexism, extreme homophobia, and other types of basket deplorable. There's loads of em, I've seen 4 banned in just the last two days (Jingoism, Incredibale, Bumkin, sztyrymytyry) . Add them up and they make up a sizeable fraction of Trump's supporter base. Maybe not 50% but certainly beyond single digits.

But I can understand why you don't like the comment. No-one likes getting called out for associating with scum.

So you are making the claim that the moderators here are biased?

[Thepersona]

Your Dad is not running for POTUS, he's a nobody.

you didnt get the point did you? i mean, it was clear as water

What bums me out about this health shit is everyone will forget about the basket of deplorable comment she made. Called millions of people irredeemable but gets a pass :/

what's the problem with her comment? (even if she backpedaled on that) it's somewhat true, that there's a good overlap between the white supremacists, the homophobes, xenophobes and alt-right in general and the trump voter

Democrats should be happy. If she dropped out either Kaine or Biden or maybe a kaine/bernie ticket would be alot more competitive vs trunp. Clinton. Is spiraling downward. Trunp gets closer in tbe polls every week and I'm sure wikileaks/russia still has more dirt on clinton

considering that wikileaks and russia have a personal vendetta against clinton, but (for the 100th time) she wasnt indicted, i wouldnt know what would happen now that will destroy her... and she's 5-6 points ahead, with some states that are red going to a contested status

[LaserSharkDFB]

So you are making the claim that the moderators here are biased?

How did you possibly get that from his post? They're doing their job: infracting these people who post in 'deplorable' way. The rules have been in place for a while now, and I saw one guy add 'come at me mods' on the post that got him banned, so wish granted I guess. It's not the mod's fault that these people are Trump supporters, and that's not their criteria.

[Eviscero]

What bums me out about this health shit is everyone will forget about the basket of deplorable comment she made. Called millions of people irredeemable but gets a pass :/

True statements don't need 'a pass.'

[Stommped]

True statements don't need 'a pass.'

Kind of ironic that calling all Trump supporters racist/deplorable (whatever the fuck) is an acceptable generalization, but it's the same generalizing that they destroy Trump for (illegal immigrants rapists/Muslims violent, etc.).

[alexw]

So you are making the claim that the moderators here are biased?

??????? You are making no sense whatsoever. Or are you saying people who say such things as -

"It's perfectly ok to be a homophobe, because homosexual practices are sick, disgusting, disease-prone, and are the result of either mental illness or God removing whatever restraint that person had from being a reprobate." - Incredibale

are fine upstanding people? That this something society should accept and welcome as a viewpoint? And that its just plain bias to be otherwise?

If that's the case then you are a deplorable yourself.

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Kind of ironic that calling all Trump supporters racist/deplorable (whatever the fuck) is an acceptable generalization, but it's the same generalizing that they destroy Trump for (illegal immigrants rapists/Muslims violent, etc.).

Please point out where she said all Trump supporters were deplorables.

FYI how on earth can you be a mod when you lie like this?

[Lenonis]

It is possible the pneumonia is a result of an advanced state of Parkinson's disease and it doesn't matter how much money you have but medical technology has limits. Anyone with Parkinson's or stage 4 cancer start to lose motor control skills that are normal to us like blinking, swallowing, etc.

Basically the person is wasting away in front of you. Sad.

The fact you seem to seriously think that Hillary has advanced Parkinson's or stage 4 cancer is mind boggling. I'm really hoping this is a Poe's law scenario -- cause the level of conspiracy required otherwise is chem-trails level nonsense.

[Matchles]

Of course they "know" that.
But not based off any medical fact.
Rather based off nothing more than their confirmation bias that Hillary Clinton is a god in human form and can do no wrong haha.

Multiple dangerous blood clots, concussion, over a dozen coughing attacks that we know of, and now fainting after standing outside for 5 minutes then being unable to stand or even step into a van with 3 people propping her up.

Just one giant sexist right-wing-echo-chamber-trump-supporter-trump-breakfast-conspiracy.

These are the same sites that say she is actually wheelchair bound and you are completely imagining any time she actually walked, she has Parkinson's, the ruling class is all lizard people.

Now hopefully we can speak again after the debate(s) because that could be a real telling moment for Hillary's health.

Her campaign always wanted to cut the town-hall style 2nd debate, and now there's rumors they want to cut the 3rd one too.

People always assumed it was because she had no good defense to all her flip-flopping and corrupt/criminal acts, but maybe its because they think its likely she will have some sort of episode while up on stage. (probably both right haha)

Side note - fucking amazing how these candidates only do 2-3 debates total isn't it? Pretty telling of just how divisive and confirmation-bias driven our election process is, right?

She isn't trying to cut the debates. There are always 3 presidential debates a single VP debate. The horsetrading is over the dates, topics and channels/moderators. There is one candidate that has a history of ducking debates and it is Donald "I'm terrified of Megyn Kelly" Trump. I'm wondering why you think 3 presidential debates is an aberration? The last time there was more than 3 presidential debates in the general election was 1960 when there was 4.

[Lenonis]

To add to this: when she got a concussion a few years back, she didn't even go to the hospital.

I'm running under an assumption, which may be false, that she can easily have doctors come to her. Or maybe she just doesn't like going to the doctor. That would concern me more for a president than any of this other stage 4 cancer bullshit.

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Kind of ironic that calling all Trump supporters racist/deplorable (whatever the fuck) is an acceptable generalization, but it's the same generalizing that they destroy Trump for (illegal immigrants rapists/Muslims violent, etc.).

You ignored me before, but I'll just copy my response from earlier in your misguided attempts to defend Trump supporters.

It's challenging to talk about things like racism or xenophobia because those views can be challenging to pin down. For example -- wanting to secure the border because you feel everyone should follow due process for entering the country isn't xenophobic, but wanting to secure the border because you believe Mexico sends over rapists and murders is very xenophobic. Similarly holding views like the black community is a bunch of lazy moochers who just want government handouts is very racist. But people don't often just come right out and say that.

It's a lot simpler when it comes to homophobia. The desire by a majority of Trump supports to overturn gay marriage and legalize discrimination is nothing but homophobia and frankly can't be defended in any other way.

So...more than half of Trump supporters hold the deplorable view that gays should be treated as second class citizens.

That's just how it is. Because a majority of Trump supporters don't find homophobia to be wrong.

[TrumpIsPresident]

I'm wondering why you think 3 presidential debates is an aberration? The last time there was more than 3 presidential debates in the general election was 1960 when there was 4.

Cause these assclown candidates spend months roaming around reciting their stump speeches when they should have to go head to head multiple times covering every issue in unscripted barely-moderated fashion.

They get a 10 word question with a 60 second response time and another 60 second rebuttal which is nothing more than a game of "how can I trim sections of my stump speech to fit in a 60 second block".

Its garbage.

These jackasses should have to stand there and have everything thrown at them.

And it would be great if they had to suffer some sort of real consequence for telling lies during debates and/or not fully answering questions because the answers damage them.

[Lenonis]

So you are making the claim that the moderators here are biased?

Victim complex initiation spotted!!

The problem is that the right wing posters are the quickest to resort to bashing, often of gays, many time of liberals (search for "libtard") and thus get infracted more often. Just check the posting history of some of the more often banned posters. It's OBVIOUS.

There have been a few questionable infractions, sure -- and I'd even say there could be some bias, but it's not NEARLY has big as people make it out to be. Left wing posters get infracted all the time.

Also, technically talking about moderation is against the rules as well...so...yeah. When posters post about how biased the mods are and how they'll likely get infracted for bashing liberals they are in fact committing an infractable offense. Self-fulfilling prophecy and all that.

[Stommped]

Man I missed Jill Stein throwing the shots last night on Twitter:

Clinton thinks racists, misogynists & homophobes are a #BasketOfDeplorables - except when they donate to Clintons.

https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/stat...325249?lang=en

I'm guessing most people did since she only has 200k followers

[Lenonis]

I honestly don't know why people are spending so much time obsessing over Clinton's health. The most difficult time of the campaign is coming up -- you have the debates (which require prep work) as well as the ground game leading up to the election.

If Clinton is in dire health then she isn't going to perform well and her numbers will slip and Trump will in.

If she's healthy enough to win, she's healthy enough to be POTUS.

And, frankly, if we are talking about health risks, Trump is not exactly risk-free. The man has quite a few warning signs for being a heart attack candidate. But that's just as silly as talking about Clinton having Parkinson's. (Once again -- the number of people who would have to be involved in that conspiracy theory in order to keep it under wraps is chem-trails level of ridiculous)

[Felya]

Kind of ironic that calling all Trump supporters racist/deplorable (whatever the fuck) is an acceptable generalization, but it's the same generalizing that they destroy Trump for (illegal immigrants rapists/Muslims violent, etc.).

Can you list the differences you see in supporting Trump and being your race? I don't think you realize what the above implies...

[DocSavageFan]

She isn't trying to cut the debates. There are always 3 presidential debates a single VP debate. The horsetrading is over the dates, topics and channels/moderators. There is one candidate that has a history of ducking debates and it is Donald "I'm terrified of Megyn Kelly" Trump. I'm wondering why you think 3 presidential debates is an aberration? The last time there was more than 3 presidential debates in the general election was 1960 when there was 4.

I see that Clinton tried to get Chris Wallace replaced (unsuccessfully) as moderator for the third and most watched debate. He won't pull a Candy Crowley...but he'll make damn sure the candidates answer the questions. This will be interesting.

[Breccia]

I'm running under an assumption, which may be false, that she can easily have doctors come to her.

That's not an assumption, that's fact. It just further strengthens your argument about having excellent health care provided, which is the context I replied to.