Havoc in Legion: 7.2.5 Guide

[Mrkew]

What about trinket sims for 3/4 targets? Mythic+ is anything but ST 95% of the time.

[Sefer]

Chaos Talisman - Fel Lord Betrug Vault of the Wardens (Mythic+)

should be

Chaos Talisman - Fel Lord Betrug Assault on Violet Hold (Mythic+)

[Shirofune]

Right now my sim give me Vers very close to crit (im around 42% crit iirc).

I suppose vers gets better as your crit get higher.

My sims put crit as my worse stat and haste as my best atm (52% crit, 7% vers)

[Krille]

My sims put crit as my worse stat and haste as my best atm (52% crit, 7% vers)

Seems like more people are seeing this. So crit loses it's top value at about 45% or something.

[Maldic]

I'm at 39% crit and my sims are still showing Haste>Crit=Vers

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I'm at 39% crit and my sims are still showing Haste>Crit=Vers

with demon blades that sorta makes sense as that result in a higher resource generation which in turn results in more chaos strikes.

[Donovan4893]

So I am a noob when it comes to simcraft but where on the results page after simming my self do I see my stat weights that you guys are talking about.

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So I am a noob when it comes to simcraft but where on the results page after simming my self do I see my stat weights that you guys are talking about.

Follow this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...mcrafting_dps/

[Icecreamcake]

Is there a single target opener guide anywhere? Also during Metamorphosis, at how much fury should I be FR or VR at? I here is my general opener

FR
Fury of Illidari
Throw Glaive
Fury to 60-80
Metamorphosis
FR
Chaos Strike until Momentum wears off
Build up to 60-80 Fury
FR
Chaos Strike
Throw Glaive right before momentum wears off

[Kib]

Is there a single target opener guide anywhere? Also during Metamorphosis, at how much fury should I be FR or VR at? I here is my general opener

assuming either 1133111 or 1133112 talent setup

- Fel Rush
- Fel Barrage (if talented)
- Fury of the Illidari
- Throw Glaive
- Throw Glaive
- Build fury until you reach Maximum Fury - 20
- Vengeful Retreat
- Metamorphosis
- Chaos Blades (if talented) + Trinkets
- follow priority list

[Shirofune]

assuming either 1133111 or 1133112 talent setup

- Fel Rush
- Fel Barrage (if talented)
- Fury of the Illidari
- Throw Glaive
- Throw Glaive
- Build fury until you reach Maximum Fury - 20
- Vengeful Retreat
- Metamorphosis
- Chaos Blades (if talented) + Trinkets
- follow priority list

THat doesn't seem right to me.

How are you able to put 4 skills into a single Momentum window? Even now its hard already to put 3 if you're not under BL.

[Deleted]

THat doesn't seem right to me.

How are you able to put 4 skills into a single Momentum window? Even now its hard already to put 3 if you're not under BL.

simple, take Nemesis

[Deleted]

THat doesn't seem right to me.

How are you able to put 4 skills into a single Momentum window? Even now its hard already to put 3 if you're not under BL.

You should be able to fit 3 globals into a Momentum pretty easily without any hastebuffs. As far as Kib's opener goes, you can fit FB (casttime is shorter than a global), FoTI and TG into the Momentum, but the second TG would be outside.

[Maradar]

Are 4 weapon ilvls worth giving up 6% chaos strike crit dmg? I guess it is, but is there anyway to sim relics or something?

[Shirofune]

You should be able to fit 3 globals into a Momentum pretty easily without any hastebuffs. As far as Kib's opener goes, you can fit FB (casttime is shorter than a global unless you have no haste at all), FoTI and TG into the Momentum, but the second TG would be outside.

That's what I'm saying, the 2nd TG would be outside the Momentum.

My sims must be fucked up, btw, they're saying I must do 136k DPS, lol. I do that with one hand in the back and the eyes closed.

[Feawen]

Are 4 weapon ilvls worth giving up 6% chaos strike crit dmg? I guess it is, but is there anyway to sim relics or something?

Always, secondary traits on relics are flavor. Upping weapon affects all your dmg.

[bloodkraven]

That's what I'm saying, the 2nd TG would be outside the Momentum.

My sims must be fucked up, btw, they're saying I must do 136k DPS, lol. I do that with one hand in the back and the eyes closed.

Are you just simming your char from your armory? It doesn't pick up your artifact weapon progression on the site so it borks the numbers. You can download the addon which fixes that problem though.

[Shirofune]

Are you just simming your char from your armory? It doesn't pick up your artifact weapon progression on the site so it borks the numbers. You can download the addon which fixes that problem though.

You're right.

243k DPS in the sim with the addon. Stat priority also changed:



That's with 52% crit and 7% Vers

[Vanyali]

Always, secondary traits on relics are flavor. Upping weapon affects all your dmg.

This is not really true.

Rough guide:

Sharpened Glaives is worth ~15 ilvls
Chaos Strike is worth ~10 ilvls
Demon's Bite is worth ~5 ilvls

Other traits follow ilvl > trait, however.

[Tato23]

You're right.

243k DPS in the sim with the addon. Stat priority also changed:



That's with 52% crit and 7% Vers

What addon are you using to sim your character? Is it easy to use?