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    Question Is Queen Azshara a future patch or a future expansion?

    After what we've seen while leveling it seems like the naga and queen azshara are being set up to play a role in the future. But will they be a future patch in legion or is this foreshadowing for the next expac?
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    she will probably get her own patch ooooor get prosponded again
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    it all depends on how many raid tier's we'll have in this expansion. If we're going to have 3 raid tiers the chance of mid tier azshara raid is high.

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    It would be a huge waste to make Azshara and N'Zoth simple raid tiers in this expansion, instead of another entire expansion. How would she be different (aesthetically and mechanically) than Helya right now? How would N'Zoth be presented differently than the Nightmare right now? It would feel much like the same stuff being repeated in the same expansion, over and over. In another expansion, dedicated to them, it could be handled differently, with more devoted lore and art assets that could be worked on in a longer development cycle. The real current threat is the Legion - to me it feels like they're just building up the threat of the Naga and N'Zoth more in-game so they can be seen as more of a threat in the future.

    Personally, I'd also like to simply see more lore presented forth earlier. WoD was mostly about the Iron Horde, then demons to link in for the future (with some ogres and arakkoa mixed in the leveling and first raid). As such, WoD felt bland very quickly, since there weren't many other stories to look forward to. If N'Zoth and Azshara are presented much more directly now, then featured fully in their own expansion, it sets up the story much better in my opinion. That way, the Legion can still be the main threat, with things like the Nightmare and Helya to break up the one-tone problem that existed in WoD.

    Not to mention, this is kind of the "War of the Ancients" expansion - Azshara and N'Zoth certainly fit into that, since they were involved in the events of the war. However, their story goes 10,000 years past that, in areas of Azeroth we've never seen and involving civilizations we've barely interacted with (Makrura, most of all). There's a lot of mystery and lore in that story that wouldn't have justice in one or two patches of an expansion that deals with the Legion now.
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    I would say she gets her own Expansion, but I am not sure if she would be the endboss or if it would be a mix with Old Gods or something else. I don't think we will kill her off this expansion.

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    I don't think she will be used as a raid tier this expansion. Perhaps they were considering it, but Legion is doing pretty good without this kind of desperation.

    She might still end up a raid tier instead of expansion though. Making a whole expansion water themed could be too risky. Who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackops2008 View Post
    it all depends on how many raid tier's we'll have in this expansion. If we're going to have 3 raid tiers the chance of mid tier azshara raid is high.
    I have to agree with this. If they stick to their guns on more content per expansion, there will be plenty of room for her now. Question is whether we actually kill her this time or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    I don't think she will be used as a raid tier this expansion. Perhaps they were considering it, but Legion is doing pretty good without this kind of desperation.

    She might still end up a raid tier instead of expansion though. Making a whole expansion water themed could be too risky. Who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    She might still end up a raid tier instead of expansion though. Making a whole expansion water themed could be too risky. Who knows.
    They could add several things together. Some Underwater Zones and Caves (without Water), Islands, Elemental Plane of Water because of the Neptulon thing. Even if it would be all Water themed, there are quite a few ways to add things on land without much water.

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    I want it to be a future expansion, there's too much out there on the sea for just a little patch.
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    Azshara and N'Zoth need their own expansion. It could be easily setup to be the next one after Legion.

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    She better be an expansion. It's nice seeing her teased in Aszuna and stuff, but you don't waste an encounter with present day Queen Azshara in a patch.
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    Azshara as a patch would be an utter waste of potential.

    My money is that after we seal the portal in the tomb, she does something that stops us proceeding to Argus to hook up with the army of light.

    To take on the Legion, we have to finally remove the last major threat on Azeroth and deal with the last old god before we can move forward.

    That's why I think that the next expansion will finally be Azshara and the south seas. Because if not then...when? We are going after the Legion soon and after that Azshara will be anti-climactic.

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    She better have an expansion of her own, but I kinda doubt that will happen, do they even have enough content left on Azeroth for her to have her own expansion?

    You have to remember that we're most likely going to face off N'zoth this expansion, and most likely in 7.2 I am almost sure that we'll see the troll tribes again in 7.2 with a raid on the size of Ulduar and N'zoth as the final boss. Seeing as nobody knows for sure if Vol'jin really died, apparently they couldn't comment on if that was the last we had seen of Vol'jin.

    The doomsayers were also speaking of N'zoth quite a lot, and there's several dialogues currently in the game that really hints towards N'zoth, even Drak'thul hints towards it and he is directly faced towards the place where Thal'Dranath was supposed to be. Which I am sure is the place where we either get a troll raid with N'zoth as the end boss or the Azshara raid, I just can't see them having enough content for an Azshara expansion, especially if you think about how much hate Vashjir got.

    Not to mention, would there even be enough bad guys for an Azshara expansion? We're dealing with Xavius, Kil'jaeden, Gul'dan, most likely N'zoth and potentially the Avatar of Sargeras (which I doubt).

    Who is honestly left after Legion? It is simply only Azshara.
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    the emerald dream could be an entire expansion aswell, yet its about to be half a tier

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    Gotta be patch. What else can 7.2 even be? I really have no idea how they are going to make 3 tiers here with the first one having TWENTY BOSSES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    Azshara as a patch would be an utter waste of potential.

    My money is that after we seal the portal in the tomb, she does something that stops us proceeding to Argus to hook up with the army of light.

    To take on the Legion, we have to finally remove the last major threat on Azeroth and deal with the last old god before we can move forward.

    That's why I think that the next expansion will finally be Azshara and the south seas. Because if not then...when? We are going after the Legion soon and after that Azshara will be anti-climactic.
    Which is why it makes perfectly sense, and fits with the current theme, for N'Zoth and Azshara to be a part of a raid in this expansion, the same as the Emerald Nightmare.

    Don't you think another expansion where we magically discover even more lands to the south would be a bit redundant? Don't you N'Zoth and Azshara would be smarter to, you know, NOT sabotage a portal to Argus, let us leave...then attack and we would come back to that? I doubt we really consider her or the old god a huge threat when we know so little about both, technically. Your logic doesn't make much sense when people consider Azshara to be quite smart.
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    7.1 Karazhan
    7.2 Troll Raid - N'zoth endgame
    7.3 Kul Tiras - 110 zone much like Suramar, progress against Azshara's forces.
    7.4 Azshara raid
    7.5 Get ready to deal with the The Tomb of Sargeras
    7.6 Tomb of Sargeras raid, Fel Varian + Naisha (The one who got trapped there in WC3), I personally think KJ is gonna be the last boss here but it can be the Avatar of Sargeras as well.

    You might think it is too much content for one expansion, but they're now proving to us that they are far ahead with their content. So this is not so far fetched as you might think. It sucks but I just cannot see them doing one more expansion on Azeroth, and Argus has incredible amounts of potential for future expansions though I doubt I'll be playing the game that long!

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    I think she was there just as a "Hey guys we know you haven't forgotten about her, neither have we, just be patient a little longer". She has too much lore/buildup to be just a patch. I think the mid patch will be something glorious we all missed in WoD: Troll Raid.

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    Expansion would be too redundant I guess

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