Democratic Election 2016 - Hillary Clinton Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[alexw]

From the article you linked so you have no reason to be this ignorant.



So in recap it's a meme from internet trolls that pretend to be white supremacists to rile up the SJWs for the luls and it's doing a great job.

Just lol. "I don't like what I'm reading so I'm going to reinterpret it to mean something completely different to what the article says".

[TZucchini]

Try reading the whole thing instead of selectively quoting what I said out of context. I clearly mentioned a poor immune system as a prerequisite. Your own source even backs me up on that. If I am wrong, then so is that doctor. So cut the nonsense - weakened immune systems make it easier to get pneumonia. If you're going to argue that having a poor immune system is not a relevant issue, then you are an idiot and a waste of time.

First of all, I've taken nothing out of context. You replied to a direct statement, and I quoted you within the context of that statement.

Secondly, we have no idea if Hillary has a poor immune system. What we do know, for a fact, is that perfectly health individuals can contract pneumonia. Contracting pneumonia is not an indicator of a poor immune system.

If anything, Hillary probably has a very strong immune system, since her atypical pneumonia is quite mild.

[LaserSharkDFB]

Try reading the whole thing instead of selectively quoting what I said out of context. I clearly mentioned a poor immune system as a prerequisite. Your own source even backs me up on that. If I am wrong, then so is that doctor. So cut the nonsense - weakened immune systems make it easier to get pneumonia. If you're going to argue that having a poor immune system is not a relevant issue, then you are an idiot and a waste of time.

I'm still trying to figure out what you're trying to say at this point. If pneumonia tends to affect the elderly and both candidates are about the same age, then... what? Should we put an age cap on the presidency?

I may be wrong, but what I think you're getting at is that Clinton has disqualifying levels of health issues, and the proof you want to use for that (because it's the only actual proof you have) is that she contracted a disease that is not uncommon for people her age. But that makes no sense at all, so I'm probably wrong.

[Fargus]

First of all, I've taken nothing out of context. You replied to a direct statement, and I quoted you within the context of that statement.

Secondly, we have no idea if Hillary has a poor immune system. What we do know, for a fact, is that perfectly health individuals can contract pneumonia. Contracting pneumonia is not an indicator of a poor immune system.

If anything, Hillary probably has a very strong immune system, since her atypical pneumonia is quite mild.

You were selectively quoting me and ignoring the rest of what I said.

Bzzt, wrong. The doctor you used as a source said: "It can affect an otherwise perfectly healthy individual, whether they are elderly or even young adults. In general, stress and a heavy schedule that lead to exhaustion can certainly have an effect on the immune system,”

The effect is a weakened immune system. Usually a long bout of bronchitis or a severe cold can do that as well.

Hahahaha. Very strong immune system? People with strong immune systems don't get pneumonia, let alone severe coughing fits.

[phitness]

Just lol. "I don't like what I'm reading so I'm going to reinterpret it to mean something completely different to what the article says".

It's a meme that came from 4chan made by trolls. If you seriously think real white supremacists came up with and endorse Pepe then thanks for the laugh.

Let me know when you see the KKK holding up posters of Pepe at their rallies or sown onto their outfits and you MAY have a leg to stand on.

[TZucchini]

You were selectively quoting me and ignoring the rest of what I said.

Again. No, I was not. But let me give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll ask one more time:

Is the contraction of pneumonia an indicator of your general health?

[ControlWarrior]

Let's recap.

I said: "pneumonia is not a sign of overall poor general health."

You said: "Well yes, it generally is."

The Doctor Said: "Someone acquiring pneumonia does not in any way imply that they have an underlying health condition...It can affect an otherwise perfectly healthy individual”


So again. You're wrong. Objectively.

Well, objectively speaking, acquiring pneumonia is not a sign of good health.

Objectively speaking of course.

[Fargus]

I'm still trying to figure out what you're trying to say at this point. If pneumonia tends to affect the elderly and both candidates are about the same age, then... what? Should we put an age cap on the presidency?

I may be wrong, but what I think you're getting at is that Clinton has disqualifying levels of health issues, and the proof you want to use for that (because it's the only actual proof you have) is that she contracted a disease that is not uncommon for people her age. But that makes no sense at all, so I'm probably wrong.

Not necessary, but I would except any candidate to be healthy and of sound mind enough to shoulder such a responsibility.

That would really depend on any underlying medical issues she is not disclosing, so I cannot say for certain. Were it not for that guy filming the fainting spell, we would probably not be having this conversation. All those coughing fits and this recent collapse just shows she's ill and frail, which might disqualify her if it gets worse. People her age suffering from pneumonia take longer to recover, and there is always the possibility of complications. We don't know how serious it is, nor the type... so this is really a wait and see approach. I am not entertaining the idea that she's near death or that she's too sick to be running, but I'm not going to say this is an impossibility, especially with little information we have.

[LaserSharkDFB]

Well, objectively speaking, acquiring pneumonia is not a sign of good health.

Objectively speaking of course.

Well, the point in contention is whether or not she has overall good health, enough that she would be able to serve as President. You can have overall good health and still get sick once in a while. Our bodies are badly designed tubes of meat and we should transition to robot shells as soon as possible. But I digress.

[zenkai]

Um, no. It's not.

And I wouldn't classify a 68 year old individual as "elderly".

Shes' almost 69 and you would be wrong not to

"Most developed world countries have accepted the chronological age of 65 years as a definition of 'elderly' or older person, but like many westernized concepts, this does not adapt well to the situation in Africa."

[Bumkin]

Sort of like how the right hides behind buzzwords?

Like if you disagree with someone on the Muslim issue, just call yourself a "patriot" and you get a free pass.

If you insult an ethnic minority, people still have to like you because your just going against "PC" culture.

If you want to discriminate against homosexuals in your business you call it "freedom of religion".

Want to wave the rebel flag, showing that you truly think the treasonous south should have won and if you could bust out your shot gun and help them win you would, just call it "heritage".

A confused addle-brained charlatan infiltrates your party and rises to the top of your party, much to their chagrin, and any republican who disagrees has to be a "RHINO".

Or how if anyone sides with the opinion that is not the right and verbally disagrees, they are now a "SJW".

A women who says anything about woman's rights is now a "Fem-Nazi"

Anyone who doesn't support the right is a "Beta Male"

Do tell, what was that about changing the definition of words to give free passes and change the narrative completely?



I'm glad you follow memes so closely, I know nothing about Pepe, but your liberal use of "evil manipulating hypocrites disgusting creatures" truly shows what kind of vile hypocrisy you are truly peddling.

Evil manipulating hypocrites disgusting creatures, is probably a spot on definition for all leftists, i had a moment of inspiration there

infracted - trolling

[zenkai]

And you'd be wrong.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...-white-n646431

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pepe-the-frog

[Invrlose]

So are you guys ever going to talk about something substantial, like maybe hillary's policies?

[Fargus]

Again. No, I was not. But let me give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll ask one more time:

Is the contraction of pneumonia an indicator of your general health?

Define "general health". If you are otherwise healthy and suffering no other illness, then no. But don't pretend it's a cold... pneumonia is serious and can wear down an otherwise healthy person. People who contract it often have weakened immune systems, from a variety of factors (someone healthy can still get stressed enough to weaken it). If someone has a poor immune system, and gets it, you can't really say they're healthy.

[alexw]

So are you guys ever going to talk about something substantial, like maybe hillary's policies?

Of course not, because then Hillary will obviously win.

[Symphonic]

Procedure was for her to go to the hospital. She didn't want to because she was afraid staff would leak her condition, is what I am reading. Her camp took decided her daughters house was better then going to the ER.

Which means this is a pretty common occurrence for her. Anyone. Absolutely anyone would be admitted to a hospital after what happened. But no, they took her to her daughters place. This must happen often enough that they're not alarmed. From an actual Doctor (not her treating physician) he says that people with Parkinson's recognize a lot of gestures and movements she makes to be signs that she has it. The 400+ nods at one event, the need to move her hands constantly (or hold it to her chest). The "seizure incident" (which was not a seizure at all) was due to her medication. Her freezing up incident and then repeating what the guard says to her, to the crowd. The campaign's lies are going to get them. Overheated, my butt.

[TZucchini]

Define "general health". If you are otherwise healthy and suffering no other illness, then no. But don't pretend it's a cold... pneumonia is serious and can wear down an otherwise healthy person. People who contract it often have weakened immune systems, from a variety of factors (someone healthy can still get stressed enough to weaken it). If someone has a poor immune system, and gets it, you can't really say they're healthy.

OK. So the contraction of pneumonia isn't indicative of overall general health. Wonderful. Glad we can agree.

[phitness]

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pepe-the-frog

NBC says it's a white supremacist thing so he/she/it(could identify as an Apache attack chopper) couldn't be bothered to actually look anything up about it and just took the headline as fact.

[Kujako]

Um, no. It's not.

And I wouldn't classify a 68 year old individual as "elderly".

And then there's the whole issue of Trump being older...

[ControlWarrior]

So are you guys ever going to talk about something substantial, like maybe hillary's policies?

She has policies?