The F-35 Guides Missiles Without Firing a Shot

[willtron]

Doesnt the US have satellites that can do this without any risk of getting detected?

Satellites have latency.

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it's proof in the same way wargames prove that a scandinavian submarine can take out a US carrier undetected. whenever someone posts that people are quick to bring up the differences between a test/wargame and a real scenario.

other then that: what's so special about this, seems just an evolution on say a ground based team using a laser pointer to guide a missile to it's target.

It basically is. Except it's on a stealth fighter that can use the firing power of a ship or soon to be pilotless f16s.

It's not a new idea, biplane pilots would report or flare a position and it would get attacked by artillery in WW1.

[Hooked]

Couldn't you, like, use an existing, like, satellite, to, like, do the same thing? See shit n say that shit should be blown up? You need to spend gazillions on a plane to do what you already can do?? Is op trolling or is he this clueless?

Rods from the gods.

[Skulltaker]

How you think is seriously wrong. Humans need the idea of conflict or the war itself to advance.
I feel sorry to say this but how do you think we advanced so much in such a short time?

We want to destroy faster, harder and much more efficiently. So we always try to be faster and stronger. Simple concept; 2 nations, they both have airplanes. They both have the same speed. They will both reach their target at the same time and destroy their targets. But hey, you try to find a way to destroy the target even before that enemy pilot takes off from the ground. You develop and improve. Communications, Internet, Space exploration and all this technology you use are the result of endless wars, conflicts or their ideas.

Really If we didn't need to reach intel so fast in die battle situations, we would be still using letters. A peaceful world would be all nice and beautiful but not advanced, not this much.

Technology like this will enable humankind to go into stars with MACROSS designs.

Motivation does in no way influence capacities. Everything you can do while well motivated you could do while not interested at all. All the brainpower that went into military technology could have been invented without anyone dying for it. Most humans don't have an urge to destroy (while all have the capacity). Humans don't need the idea of conflict or war to motivate themselves. Billions of us motivate themselves everyday without the desire for war. Only primitive civilizations people resort to violence and fear to motivate it's populace, and only the stupidest of populations fall for it.

[Ausr]

What a click bait title.

The plane can communicate with the aegis ships, ok cool, but where does it say it can take the Russian airspace exactly?

There is no such thing as stealth dude, there is only low observability in SPECIFIC radar band.

Ohh and the Sunflower radar says hi

I'm pretty sure the F35 could fly up to you all stealth like, slap you in the face, and you'd still whine about radars like you know a damn about them.

[Mavett]

You filthy imperialist degenerate, one does not sip vodka. If you're being classy, you drink it in shots. If you don't give a fuck, you chug it out of the bottle. But sipping? That's for Frenchmen.

ruh ruh ruh

[Ulmita]

I'm pretty sure the F35 could fly up to you all stealth like, slap you in the face, and you'd still whine about radars like you know a damn about them.

beeeeh beeeeeeh little sheepy, beeeehhhhh

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...lth-f-22-15261

[Shakadam]

This means that an F-35 can stealthily enter heavily contested enemy air space

Mhm and just how is it supposed to achieve this remarkable feat?

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What a click bait title.

There is no such thing as stealth dude, there is only low observability in SPECIFIC radar band.
Ohh and the Sunflower radar says hi

and you have no problem posting your own click bait title, nowhere in the articel do it give out what range it can see a F-35, hence it only empty boast

[Thelin]

I feel like we still need sharks and/or dolphins with laser beams on their heads.

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beeeeh beeeeeeh little sheepy, beeeehhhhh

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...lth-f-22-15261

So you do not think that in transit in peace time they do not have radar amplifier on, so not to give up its full capacity?

[Ulmita]

and you have no problem posting your own click bait title, nowhere in the articel do it give out what range it can see a F-35, hence it only empty boast

We've had this conversation before and i've linked articles from universities to top military officials. Stealth is not a cloack of invisibility. If it was USA would have attacked and anhiliated Russia by now. Try to use logic for once.

Stealth only makes it appear smaller IN A SPECIFIC RADAR FREQUENCY. (hint: there are many frequencies radars can opperate).

Problem was never the detection, problem was always the target aquisition.

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So you do not think that in transit in peace time they do not have radar amplifier on, so not to give up its full capacity?

click on the links in that article especially the one with the report. It will answer your question.

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click on the links in that article especially the one with the report. It will answer your question.

So why post a totaly Irrelevant article then you know that it did have radar amplifier (external fuel tanks) on.

[Kuntantee]

First, not tested in a real war == not tested. Second, this is nothing more than some sort of functionality testing. It doesn't mean the method is effective, it means the method is working as intended.

You are welcome.

[ParanoiD84]

Not tested in a real war = not tested.

You are welcome.

And who will they test it against? it's not like the retarded terrorists have any air, naval or any kind of armoured fighting vehicle's and they will never have them either ,all they can muster is shitty ground troops who atm are getting fucked from all angles.

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and who will they test it against? It's not like the retarded terrorists have any air, naval or any kind of armoured fighting vehicle's and they will never have them either ,all they can muster is shitty ground troops who atm are getting fucked from all angles.

ze russians!!!

[Kuntantee]

And who will they test it against? it's not like the retarded terrorists have any air, naval or any kind of armoured fighting vehicle's and they will never have them either ,all they can muster is shitty ground troops who atm are getting fucked from all angles.

F-35 is not produced for terrorists. It will be useful against other capable forces, like Russia and China. F-16 is a solid jet because it is shown to be successful in action. In fact, F-16s have an impressive record. Same will be said for F-35, if proved in war.

[Ulmita]

So why post a totaly Irrelevant article then you know that it did have radar amplifier (external fuel tanks) on.

talking about selective reading

First off, if a Raptor is carrying external fuel tanks—as it often does during “ferry missions”—it is not in a stealth configuration. Moreover, the aircraft is often fitted with a Luneburg lens device on its ventral side during peacetime operations that enhances its cross section on radar.

That being said, even combat-configured F-22s are not invisible to enemy radar, contrary to popular belief. Neither is any other tactical fighter-sized stealth aircraft with empennage surfaces such as tailfins—the F-35, PAK-FA, J-20 or J-31. That’s just basic physics.

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Motivation does in no way influence capacities. Everything you can do while well motivated you could do while not interested at all. All the brainpower that went into military technology could have been invented without anyone dying for it. Most humans don't have an urge to destroy (while all have the capacity). Humans don't need the idea of conflict or war to motivate themselves. Billions of us motivate themselves everyday without the desire for war. Only primitive civilizations people resort to violence and fear to motivate it's populace, and only the stupidest of populations fall for it.

The point you're missing is that you're motivated to do something. Naturally when the primary motivation is the possibility of a war you'll feel more inclined to work on something that fits your motivation. Granted this may be a minimal effect but what's not minimal is funding. Even if a large number of people are motivated to make a new something without funding things tend to fall on their behinds. When a large source of funding is given by a relatively small number of people if those can be persuaded so that they consider something a threat then naturally you'll end up with some areas of research moving faster because of that. A lot of technologies were motivated by this initially i.e. internet.

While i don't agree with Gref's first claim - "Humans need the idea of conflict or the war itself to advance." the following one makes sense. A lot of tech was developed because of a need to be superior come a war. The key point isn't whether or not we could invent the same things given a peaceful society but rather the difference in speed. Consider this - if a new virus comes up which actually threatens a majority of the population with some serious effects you can be sure that the extra funding going into medicine and people becoming more interested in that will fast track that particular field.

[ItachiZaku]

I'd still like Batman and the Last Samurai up there firing zee missiles. Classier that way. More chest pounding that way. Sure, probably a little gayer as well, but isn't that what you'd want when defeating the Russians? Sticks it to them just a little bit more. Pun intended? /Shrug /Smirk

Cuz fuck yeah!

[ParanoiD84]

ze russians!!!

F-35 is not produced for terrorists. It will be useful against other capable forces, like Russia and China. F-16 is a solid jet because it is shown to be successful in action. In fact, F-16s have an impressive record. Same will be said for F-35, if proved in war.

Can station a few here in sweden for some target practise at the russians next time they violate swedish space like they have done many times