EU to slash funds to Eastern Europe to step up migration budget

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Eastern EU countries should never have been allowed in the EU in the first place.

They have nothing to offer and they only seem to be good at putting their hands into the money jar.

NOTHING TO OFFER? HOW BOUT CHEAP LABOR ALL EU LIKES ? People in Slovakia are much more productive then Germans etc. for same work we get 1/5 of salary, everything has same price here but worse quality ... EU uses east. eu as junkyard where you can throw shit you dont want... I rememer preEU times it wasnt any different for people here - only thing that changed are prices and quality (both to the worse)!

[Queen of Hamsters]

Yes, yes, fucking yes.
I've been waiting for this great news for a long time now.

If those countries refuse to aid in an international crisis and instead choose to elect far-right governments they should try dealing without our support.

I agree 100%. Hopefully this means more and better handling of refugees here in Sweden, seeing as how many of them are put in remote areas and forgotten about by our sweet, humanitarian government...

At least we're not Australia just yet though in terms of refugee treatment.

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Oh boy, Europe is going to implode.



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Hyperbole is a lot of fun, but rarely true. Europe won't implode, that's just a silly statement.

[Vilendor]

I didn't know we had an open border policy in the EU. More like a border we can't control.

Then you know wrong. Merkel suspended the Dublin 2 decree and welcomes everyone, doesn't matter if they come trough other EU members. Most of the countries accepted her wish and allow everyone trough the land to reach Germany and they don't even try to uphold the Schengen law which strictly demands the protection of the EU's outer borders. But the borders can be protected as proven on the Hun-Serb border, it's only the matter of will

[Wikiy]

most of those racist and hateful comments origin from EE countries. smoke and mirrors..

Umm... Wat? Are you blind and cannot see how many Western Europeans here are professing their belief that Eastern Europeans are lower beings, or are you just trolling?

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Sorry... are you talking about altruism? This decision, if it ever happens, comes right from a LACK of altruism being shown. If not towards the people, at least towards the European countries carrying the burden.

Yeah, I'm not talking about the decision. The decision is okay. I'm talking a bit more generally.

[haxartus]

If you are a multi-billion dollar corporation, Eastern Europe is where you could open an office almost for free, pay almost no taxes and then hire very experienced and educated people to work for less than the salary you pay the janitor at your home country.

[Wikiy]

Again. A big part of the shit people seem to forget(ignore). What's the point in helping of punishing Eastern Europeans when refugees skip over those countries or leave them if they actually manage to get sent there?

I can confirm as a citizen of one of the countries through which a few ten thousand immigrants passed... These people are simply not interested in staying. They want to go to what they think is heaven - Germany, Scandinavia, etc. And attempting to forcibly stop them is not only illegal by pretty much any standard, but also plainly wrong. Yes, their ideas are crazy, all the countries they're passing through are only marginally less developed to the WE countries, if you take into account the places they're coming from (relative shitholes, pardon my language, compared to both WE and EE), but it's their decision to make. The moment they were allowed inside the EU was the moment when they gained immunity from being forcibly stopped from moving around.

[Deleted]

Well, someone has to stop the Turks from Armenianing another Indo-European speaking population.

Such a threat.

[Sodia]

Do we have mods on this forum or are all of them SJW nut jobs?? From when nation bashing is allowed here??

[Deleted]

Hyperbole is a lot of fun, but rarely true. Europe won't implode, that's just a silly statement.

Yeah right, because Europe used to be a haven of peace before WW2. We're going back to that situation full speed ahead with the situation at hand.

EE governments have already agreed to the terms. Nothing is going to implode but the minds of some EE on these forums.

Sure, you ll see what happen in a few years/decades.

[Deleted]

Yeah. Poland took more than fair portion of refugees or rather economic migrants from Ukraine.
The problem that some Western politicians have that these immigrants aren't of type their favour - namely muslim Arabs and blacks .

Indeed. We are finally getting some grasp on the European values which we all heard about.

According to the liberal and humanistic Western Europe the economic immigrants from a random country in Africa or the Middle East are more worthy of getting help than the people of Ukraine. Also, upon arriving in Western Europe, they are being told by the locals that Eastern Europeans are scumbags who deserve no respect. This is a bright example of the "human equality" in "the European family".
Another shocking and tragic example are the recent attacks against Polish people in the UK. Pathetic British idiots!

Further, the more photos with African children you have on your social profile the better person you are. You are already an acknowledged European "humanist".

In some European countries, say Luxembourg, Ireland and Holland, corporate tax evasion and is permitted as long as the corporation is willing to pay fat salaries to their local staff. But only countries from Western Europe are allowed to walk on the edge of the law. If it happens in Eastern Europe there is immediately a bash from Brussels where they threaten the country with a gigantic fine. That is "equality before the law" according to the EU.

The list goes on.

The EU is tearing at itself again with Germany leading the charge at disrespecting the sovereignty of other nations?

Colour me unsurprised.

Apparently the Germans think that since they got the money they can boss everybody around.
"Solidarity" definition in the new German vocabulary: Here, take a few coins and spread your legs. Help us offload that burden. You are not allowed to disobey or even question it otherwise Brussels and Germany are going to make you starve.

[Deleted]

Umm... Wat? Are you blind and cannot see how many Western Europeans here are professing their belief that Eastern Europeans are lower beings, or are you just trolling?

no i am not blind, i just dont take responsibility for what someone else says on this forum(infractions should be in place). But your view on the situation is as poor as the OP's.

[Noradin]

Did anyone consent at the time for the sudden irrational impulse to take in millions of economic migrants from Africa and the Middle East with little or no precaution or vetting? Does not any one country making the decision to take, say, a million of them automatically guarantee every other EU member now must put up with it to some extent because of free movement?

No one ever consented to take in "millions of economic migrants... with little to no precaution or vetting". That on is simply a strawman someone cam up with when they had too much time on their hands and no real problems (or maybe they wanted to deflect attention from something worse, who knows).

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Which treatie forces a country to mass migration without any background checks and give them welfare even tho they have no right to asylum?

None, and that is not something that is being done.
What is being done is doing background checks and investigating asylum claims while not letting the applicants starve to death or just dismissing them out of hand.
Unfortuantely the Bittish (who do not take anyone anyway) sabotaged that by claiming whoever registers an applicant has to keep them afterwards thus giving the first countries these people enter in the EU an incentive to fail to take note of the identities of those who enter and thus allowing for them to apply in different countries under different names each time and take up ressources that would be needed elsewhere.
Great going.

Incidentially all Merkel offered was to take care of the registering of the indentities of those imigrants who flooded Hungary and were on the brink of causing a humanitarian catastrophe. (Why did she offer this? Because Hungary helped the Germans in the past which led to the Reunification, unfortunately, this time, the politiancs in charge there used the opportunity to stab her in the back.)

[Deleted]

What else do you think "protecting" meant?. A fence over the Mediterranean?.

We are going to build a wall, and the Muslims are paying for it!

[Deleted]

Because you take our money, 9 billion of it. That makes you our bitch, but you can always leave the EU if you want.

This is how democracy works now?
So why even bother with laws, treaties and the EU parliament? Might as well replace all those with Schäubleman.

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We are going to build a wall, and the Muslims are paying for it!

No? Do you believe it is a good idea to let everyone in who takes us moral hostage and tries to force their way in?
Are people here in favor of Frontex transporting thousands of migrants into Europe every day?

If this is not handled soon the EU is over. Africa has an insane increase in population and already hundreds of thousands are on their way into Europe. In 5 years we will be talking millions.

[Deleted]

No? Do you believe it is a good idea to let everyone in who takes us moral hostage and tries to force their way in?
Are people here in favor of Frontex transporting thousands of migrants into Europe every day?

The alternative to frontex bringing them in is they drown, or they get in completely uncontrolled.
Now to be sure, i think frontex should just return them to wherever they started from, but that is not an option sadly.

If this is not handled soon the EU is over. Africa has an insane increase in population and already hundreds of thousands are on their way into Europe. In 5 years we will be talking millions.

By 2100 there will be 4.5 billion people in Africa - That would be approx 50% of the world pop.
We need to dramatically curb that figure.

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War refugees have a harder time than the average Eastern European.

Yes, there is no war in the Ukraine.

[Skorpionss]

Do we have mods on this forum or are all of them SJW nut jobs?? From when nation bashing is allowed here??

It's not nation bashing if you're bashing EE subhumans is it now ?

[Deleted]

i think frontex should just return them to wherever they started from, but that is not an option sadly.
[/I]

If the EU and Germany wanted to it would happen over night and nobody could do anything about it.

And it might in a few years when shit really hits the fan. Europes welfare states will implode when the numbers are getting higher and higher.

We have 2 options:

Either we stop people coming from the sea or we let everyone in.

Because right now these migrants are dying to get to Europe and it wont stop as long as the chances are this high to make it.

[Deleted]

It's not nation bashing if you're bashing EE subhumans is it now ?

Funnily enough, Kangodo and his other "tolerant liberal" friends tend to be the most spiteful douchebags on this board.

[Deleted]

If the EU and Germany wanted to it would happen over night and nobody could do anything about it.

And it might in a few years when shit really hits the fan. Europes welfare states will implode when the numbers are getting higher and higher.

We have 2 options:

Either we stop people coming from the sea or we let everyone in.

Because right now these migrants are dying to get to Europe and it wont stop as long as the chances are this high to make it.

well it is what they are doing in Turkey - it cant really be done in Libya since there is no order there.
That being said, the words we are looking for is 'intervention' and 'refugee camps'.

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Funnily enough, Kangodo and his other "tolerant liberal" friends tend to be the most spiteful douchebags on this board.

The beauty of feeling morally justified, you can be a jerk and not feel bad.

[Deleted]

War refugees have a harder time than the average Eastern European.

How is any of that related to this discussion?
How is any of this not trolling?

So you just thought: "After all that bullshit and trolling, I'm going to throw in some nationbashing!"
Perhaps you might want to provide sources and links so we can laugh at your theories.


You can't just name a single thing and then claim the list goes on.


1. That pretty much is exactly what it means. You don't have to take their money, you know.
2. Apparently there's an Eastern European dictionary where rape is defined as throwing money to people? No wonder their are economically so behind on everyone else if your dictionaries are like that, I can only imagine what schoolbooks must be like
3. You're not going to starve from losing a few billion. And if you would starve then you shouldn't be in the EU to begin with.

Apparently you are the local smarty pants who does not bother even understanding other's points of view.

Off topic, being super knowledgeable, Mr. Smarty pants doesn't even bother to admit the selective "tax optimization" going on in his home country:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/netherla...aid-1448653827
When people mention these suspicious deals Mr. Smarty pants says it is bashing.

The question is not whether and how many refugees every single member country of the Union is going to accept. Syrian people need help and we already agreed to help. In fact, we have at least 10 times more refugees at the moment since they use my country as transition to Western Europe.
And these are not even Syrian refugees but Afghani, Iraqi and Pakistani. Anyway, it doesn't matter where they come from. Western Europe was very supportive of the US invasion in Iraq, lead the "revolution" in Lybia and supported the Syrian and Ukraine civil wars. (sorry, according to you what was going in Ukraine was not civil war but some kids playing with fire)

The question is why somebody somewhere in Berlin and Brussels thought that Eastern Europe would listen silently and obey to their bullshit.
Why Western Europe should decide for the whole EU what is allowed and what is not, what is just or not, what is moral or not?
If the EU is a democratic union then why the opinion of nearly 200 million people from the CEE is neglected?
Why is there a fine for these people for standing for their beliefs?
Why are we called rats, leeches and so on?

I would agree that maybe the people from the CEE are a bit too conservative but what some "liberal" people are doing is just arrogant.

It's pointless arguing with a stubborn Dutch.