7.1 Hunter Changes

[jon234]

I know this is extremely early but sofar this is what there is

Hunter (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Marked Shot Rapidly fires shots at all targets with your Hunter's Mark, dealing (250% of weapon damage) Physical damage and making them Vulnerable for 30 sec. Vulnerable Damage taken from Marked Shot and Aimed Shot increased by 25%. Lasts 0. Stacks up to 3 times. 100 yd range. Instant. 50% for 30 sec. 100 yd range. Instant.
Track Mechanicals (New) Shows the location of all nearby mechanicals on the minimap. Instant.

Talents
A Murder of Crows Summons a flock of crows to attack your target, dealing [ 16 + 2,160% 2,592% of AP ] Physical damage over 15 sec. When a target dies while affected by this ability, its cooldown will reset. Hunter - Level 90 Talent. 30 Focus. 40 yd range. Instant. 60 sec cooldown.
Animal Instincts Flanking Strike also grants you the instincts of your pet for 7 sec, providing one of the following combat enhancements. Instincts of the Raptor Increases Haste by 10%. Instincts of the Cheetah Increases Movement Speed by 20%. Instincts of the Mongoose Increases Mastery by 10% reduces the remaining cooldown by 3 sec of a random one of the following abilities: Flanking Strike Mongoose Bite Aspect of the Eagle Harpoon. Survival Hunter - Level 15 Talent.
Dragonsfire Grenade Hurls a dragonsfire grenade at the target that explodes into flames, inflicting [ 142.2% [ 422.5% of AP ] Fire damage over 8 sec and reducing movement speed by 20%. The volatile flames on the target also scorch nearby enemies for [ 142.2% of AP ] damage every 1 sec. Survival Hunter - Level 90 Talent. 40 yd range. Instant. 30 sec cooldown.
Trailblazer Name changed from "Dash" to "Trailblazer". Increases the duration of Aspect of the Cheetah by Your movement speed is increased by 30% anytime you have not attacked for 3 seconds. Hunter - Level 45 Talent.
Volley While active, your auto attacks spend 3 Focus to also launch a volley of shots that hit the target and all other nearby enemies, dealing [ 75% of AP [ AP ;] additional Physical damage. Hunter - Level 90 Talent. Instant. 1.5 sec cooldown.

PvP Talents
Hardiness (New) While above 80% health, you take 20% less damage. Survival Hunter - Tier 1 PvP Talent.
Mending Bandage Instantly clears all bleeds poisons and diseases from the target, and heals for 30% damage over 6 sec. Being attacked will stop you from using Mending Bandage. Survival Hunter - Tier 4 PvP Talent. 15 yd range. 6 sec cast (Channeled). 25 sec cooldown.
Reinforced Armor (New) Health increased by 10%. Survival Hunter - Tier 1 PvP Talent.
Scorpid Sting Beast Mastery: Your Cobra Shot stings the target, reducing their physical critical strike chance by 50% for 6 sec. Marksmanship: Your Aimed Shot stings the target, reducing their physical critical strike chance by 50% for 6 sec. Survival: Your Raptor Strike stings the target, reducing their physical critical strike chance by 50% for 6 sec. 100 yd range. Instant. Hunter Any2 Role - Tier 3 PvP Talent. 40 yd range. Instant. 30 sec cooldown.
Sparring (New) Physical melee attacks have a 20% chance to be blunted, dealing 50% reduced damage. Survival Hunter - Tier 1 PvP Talent.
The Beast Within Reduces the cooldown of Bestial Wrath by 30 15 sec, and you become immune to all Fear and Horror effects while Bestial Wrath is active. Beast Mastery Hunter - Tier 4 PvP Talent.
Viper Sting Beast Mastery: Your Cobra Shot stings the target, reducing their healing done by 30% for 12 6 sec. Viper Sting is removed if the target casts a non-instant cast healing spell. Marksmanship: Your Aimed Shot stings the target, reducing their healing done by 30% for 12 sec. Viper Sting is removed if the target casts a non-instant cast healing spell. Survival: Your Raptor Strike stings the target, reducing their healing done by 30% for 12 sec. Viper Sting is removed if the target casts a non-instant cast healing spell. Honor Talent. 100 yd range. Instant. Hunter Any2 Role - Tier 3 PvP Talent. 40 yd range. Instant. 45 sec cooldown.

Beast Mastery
Bestial Wrath Beast Mastery: Sends you and your pet into a rage, increasing all damage you both deal by 20% for 10 sec. Bestial Wrath's remaining cooldown is reduced by 15 sec each time you use Dire Beast. Marksmanship, Survival: Sends you and your pet into a rage, increasing all damage you both deal by 20% for 10 sec. Hunter - Beast Mastery Spec. 100 yd range. Instant. 1.5 min cooldown.
Bestial Wrath (New) Bestial Wrath's remaining cooldown is reduced by 15 sec each time you use Dire Beast. Hunter - Beast Mastery Spec.
Kill Command (Beast Mastery) Give the command to kill, causing your pet to savagely deal [ 0.09 * Level + 26.6% [ 0.04 * Level + 13.3% of RAP + 1 + 265.5% of RAP or 2 + 531% of RAP ] Physical damage to its target.
Kill Command (Marksmanship, Survival) Give the command to kill, causing your pet to savagely deal [ 0.075 * Level + 22.5% [ 0.04 * Level + 11.3% of RAP + 1 + 225% of RAP or 2 + 450% of RAP ] Physical damage to its target.

Beast Mastery & Marksmanship
Cobra Shot A quick shot causing (340% of weapon damage) Physical damage. Hunter - Beast Mastery [ 0.035 * Level * 340% of weapon damage + 0.294 * 340% of weapon damage or 340% of weapon damage ] Physical damage. Hunter - Beast Mastery & Marksmanship Spec. 40 Focus. 40 yd range. Instant.
Disengage (New) Disengage's cooldown is reduced by 10 sec. Hunter - Beast Mastery & Marksmanship Spec.

Beast Mastery, Survival, Marksmanship
Exhilaration Heals you for 30% and your pet for 100% of maximum health. Hunter - Beast Mastery & Survival Marksmanship Spec. 45 yd range. Instant. 2 min cooldown.
Exhilaration (New) Exhilaration also heals your pet for 100% of maximum health. Hunter - Beast Mastery, Survival, Marksmanship Spec.

Marksmanship
Aimed Shot Beast Mastery, Survival: A powerful aimed shot that deals (215% of weapon damage [ 0.619 * 215% of weapon damage or 0.038 * Level * 215% of weapon damage + 0.238 * 215% of weapon damage or 215% of weapon damage ] Physical damage. Replaces Cobra Shot. Marksmanship: A powerful aimed shot that deals [ 0.619 * 215% of weapon damage or 0.038 * Level * 215% of weapon damage + 0.238 * 215% of weapon damage or 215% of weapon damage ) Physical damage. Hunter - Marksmanship Spec. 50 Focus. 40 yd range. Instant.
Arcane Shot A quick shot that causes (130% of weapon damage [ 0.615 * 130% of weapon damage or 0.038 * Level * 130% of weapon damage + 0.231 * 130% of weapon damage or 130% of weapon damage ) Arcane damage. Generates 5 Focus. Hunter - Marksmanship Spec. 40 yd range. Instant.
Marked Shot Rapidly fires shots at all targets with your Hunter's Mark, dealing (250% of weapon damage) Physical damage and making them Vulnerable for 30 sec. Vulnerable Damage taken from Marked Shot and Aimed Shot increased by 25%. Lasts 0. Stacks up to 3 times 50% for 30 sec. Hunter - Marksmanship Spec. 30 Focus. 40 yd range. Instant.
Marked Shot (New) Vulnerability can stack 1 additional times. Hunter - Marksmanship Spec.
Marksman's Focus (New) Increases your maximum Focus by 20. Hunter - Marksmanship Spec.

Survival
Aspect of the Eagle (New) Aspect of the Eagle grants you and your pet 10% increased Critical Strike chance on all abilities. Hunter - Survival Spec.
Aspect of the Eagle Grants you and your pet 10% Beast Mastery, Marksmanship: Your pet's attacks have a 25% chance to grant you a charge of Mongoose Bite. Lasts 10 sec. Survival: Grants you and your pet 0% increased Critical Strike chance on all abilities, and increases your chance to gain charges of Mongoose Bite by 25% your pet's attacks have an additional 25% chance to grant you a charge of Mongoose Bite. Lasts 10 sec. Hunter - Survival Spec. 100 yd range. Instant. 2 min cooldown.
Flanking Strike (Beast Mastery, Marksmanship) A coordinated attack on the target, where you deal (200% of weapon damage [ 0.650 * 200% of weapon damage or 0.035 * Level * 200% of weapon damage + 0.300 * 200% of weapon damage or 200% of weapon damage ) Physical damage and your pet deals [ 16.1% of AP or 322.8% of AP ] Physical damage.
Flanking Strike (Survival) A coordinated attack on the target, where you deal (200% of weapon damage [ 0.650 * 200% of weapon damage or 0.035 * Level * 200% of weapon damage + 0.300 * 200% of weapon damage or 200% of weapon damage ) Physical damage and your pet deals [ 16.1% of AP or 322.8% of AP ] Physical damage.
Harpoon (New) Harpoon's cooldown is reduced by 10 sec. Hunter - Survival Spec.
Lacerate Tears a bleeding wound in the target, dealing [ 12 + 80% 223% of AP ] Physical damage over 12 sec. Hunter - Survival Spec. 35 Focus. Melee range. Instant. 10 sec cooldown.
Mastery: Hunting Companion Your pet's attacks have a 4.0% 4% chance to grant you an additional charge of Mongoose Bite. Hunter - Survival Spec.



( if some one can take a snip it or better than a wall of text that would be appreciated )

[3clipse]

Between not knowing what's a tooltip change and what of these are real, since datamining is frequently not 100% accurate, I'm withholding judgement, especially with weird stuff in there like "Aimed Shot replaces Cobra Shot" that's impossible to parse.

I like the idea that they're buffing normal Vulnerable to 50/100/150%, though. That would mean Patient Sniper is no longer a necessity and free up other playstyles for Marksmanship (probably have the effect of also reducing the importance of Sidewinders, as well).

[Azzurri]

Looks like Aim shot is an instant too.

[Millhi]

Looks like Aim shot is an instant too.

nah it isn't, still has a cast time when you check it on PTR

[Deleted]

Marksmanship
Aimed Shot Beast Mastery, Survival: A powerful aimed shot that deals (215% of weapon damage [ 0.619 * 215% of weapon damage or 0.038 * Level * 215% of weapon damage + 0.238 * 215% of weapon damage or 215% of weapon damage ] Physical damage. Replaces Cobra Shot. Marksmanship: A powerful aimed shot that deals [ 0.619 * 215% of weapon damage or 0.038 * Level * 215% of weapon damage + 0.238 * 215% of weapon damage or 215% of weapon damage ) Physical damage. Hunter - Marksmanship Spec. 50 Focus. 40 yd range. Instant.

When they describe skills like this, what does that mean? I never understood the "or" part. It's the same with KC on Wowhead.
And what is that 0,619* x% of weapon damage supposed to mean? A reduction of ~40%? A tooltip update?

(I'm not really questioning what is going to change or not, I'm only interested in how to read this)

[DeicideUH]

Is Vulnerable changed to 50% increased damage, max 2 stacks? Did I understand that right?

[Deleted]

Is Vulnerable changed to 50% increased damage, max 2 stacks? Did I understand that right?

I read it as: stacks 3 times, 50% each stack and there is a talent that makes it stack a fourth time for 200% dmg.

[Millhi]

I read it as: stacks 3 times, 50% each stack and there is a talent that makes it stack a fourth time for 200% dmg.

50% bonus damage stacks 2 time (so 100%) when not talented into patient sniper


with patient sniper same as live:



this is just tooltip updates mostly besides the dash into trailblazer and vulnerable change (idk about survival tho)

[MatthewOU2015]

Why did they nerf BM? Not cool at all....

[Garfurion]

Just logged into PTR.

Marked Shot change: Vulnerable now increases Marked/Aimed Shot damage by 50% stacks 2 times.

Patient Sniper seems unchanged.


Aimed Shot still has a cast-time.

Trailblazer replaces Dash as a talent: Your movement speed is increased by 30% each time you have not attacked for 3 sec.

Thas'Dorah still gives up to 25% movement speed increase though.

edit: Windrunning from Thas'Dorah and Trailblazer seem to stack and Trailblazer does not fail on damage taken.

[Deleted]

Trailblazer replaces Dash as a talent: Your movement speed is increased by 30% each time you have not attacked for 3 sec.

Thas'Dorah still gives up to 25% movement speed increase though.

edit: Windrunning from Thas'Dorah and Trailblazer seem to stack and Trailblazer does not fail on damage taken.

seems like we got our old aspect of the cheetah back in some form

[3clipse]

Again, don't get too attached to any of the changes. The first build of a PTR usually changes massively before the final release client.

[Deleted]

I really hope 7.1 doesnt make BM better then MM, and if it is they should gives us all our AP back. They promised they wont change the best spec.

[3clipse]

Official notes:

" Track Mechanicals granted to all gnome and goblin hunters, as well as any hunter who uses the Mecha-Bond Imprint Matrix.
Vulnerable now increases damage by 50% (was 25%), stacking up to 2 times (was 3 times).
New Hunter talent (replacing Dash):
Trailblazer: Your movement speed is increased by 25% anytime you have not attacked for 3 seconds.
(Survival) Animal Instincts has been redesigned: Flanking Strike now also reduces the remaining cooldown of a random one of the following abilities:
Flanking Strike
Mongoose Bite
Aspect of the Eagle
Harpoon"

Any other changes are likely left over stuff not implemented, coming but not implemented, or tooltip fixes but the spell works that way on 7.0.3 live atm.

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And again, foremost in your mind should be that PTRs tend to undergo many iterations before they see release. It could very well go live in exactly this state. It could just as easily end up looking nothing like this. Don't get too upset or excited by any changes you see until we are closer to 7.1's release.

[MabusGaming]

Why did you copy and paste everything from the homepage and thus making it impossible to read? Since most tooltips are red or green to indicate the added or removed math lol.

[3clipse]

Tweet from Blizz:

https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/sta...99354520596480

"No class tuning has been done in Patch 7.1 yet. Datamined "changes" from the PTR at this point are simply tooltip corrections."

So, aside from the last changes in spell function, they have not actually changed spell damage.

[Deleted]

It would be a shame if they nerfed BM, and all the people who invested all their ap into it.

[xStevooo]

It's just tooltip corrections, no changes.

[aysatsana]

At least give MM/BM traps back, that's a minimum

[marjolaine]

Any confirmation on the changes to the pvp talent viper sting? Currently just applies on every cobra shot you land.