Whatever happened to Elitist Jerks?

[Deleted]

c'thun was beatable many guilds killed him in patch 1.9 ofc he wasnt a cakewalk and neither was the raid

After several hotfixes, yes.

[stomination]

The game has lost it's appeal to anyone who enjoyed raiding competition. Those people just stopped playing. Now it's just a sad shell of what it used to be.

Yet all these posters including yourself somehow find themselves in a fan site for the game still.

[LiiLoSNK]

They went the way of thottttttttbotttttt.

[skitzin]

c'thun was beatable many guilds killed him in patch 1.9 ofc he wasnt a cakewalk and neither was the raid

Context: C'thun was unbeatable with the current gear available to players at the time and the bugs that existed. This was backed up mathematically by Ion from EJ.

After that Blizzard implemented a number of hotfixes and some alterations to phase 2 in order to make it so people could actually beat the boss. Only once these changes were in place did the first kills start rolling in.

[glowpipe]

Didn't the forum get bought out by someone who tried to monetize it and that is mainly why it all went to hell ?

[Sunderella]

what happened to them? well, the game has apparently less number crunching so that means theres less need for theorycrafting. Also, ppl tend to move on with their lives from time to time. For instance Ion Hazzikostas went from EJ guild leader to WoWs next ghostcrawler (i think). Oh well there also that thing with overmoderated forums where semantics could get you banned (specially important for non native english speakers).

[Deleted]

Didn't the forum get bought out by someone who tried to monetize it and that is mainly why it all went to hell ?

1) Lot of the original EJ theorycrafters got hired by Blizzard.
2) Ten Ton Hammer bought the site and tried to monetize it
3) Everyone else left

[Ealyssa]

c'thun was beatable many guilds killed him in patch 1.9 ofc he wasnt a cakewalk and neither was the raid

Not a single guild in the world beat C'thun before the hotfixes/nerf. You don't have a single clue about what you are talking about...

[Jewsco]

c'thun was beatable many guilds killed him in patch 1.9 ofc he wasnt a cakewalk and neither was the raid

Wow here you go again just making things up. Go ahead name one just one guild that beat it before it was hot fixed. Just one. It was in fact unbeatable until then and that is what he was hired for to check stuff like that for them before it is released.

[Saracens]

Before we derail the discussion to Vanilla bosses difficulty, please focus on the topic.

[Poppincaps]

You do known the difference between a game designer and a programmer don't you? Or do you just babble the first thing that comes to your mind?

Game designers don't just sit around talking about ideas. They actually implement those ideas, although usually through scripting and not actual coding.

[MasterOfNone]

Well ion is now fucking up the game at blizzard instead of just playing it. That's one of the bigger reasons.

[Jewsco]

Game designers don't just sit around talking about ideas. They actually implement those ideas, although usually through scripting and not actual coding.

Yes but they don't dont do the grunt work of programming. That is why a lot of programmers get paid slightly above minimum wage it is the grunt work. They are the first people replaced as soon as they start to make some money with fresh new programmers it happens industry wide.

[Deleted]

Well ion is now fucking up the game at blizzard instead of just playing it. That's one of the bigger reasons.

Tiresome "the devs are destroying the game"-argument. So new and fresh around here.
0/10. Try something new.

[MasterOfNone]

Tiresome "the devs are destroying the game"-argument. So new and fresh around here.
0/10. Try something new.

Not really tiresome considering his record, or are you one of the 7 people in reality that enjoyed wod?

[MasterOfNone]

Being part of a high profile site is pretty much a sure-fire way to get hired at Blizzard. Always has been. It's WHY many of these people start the sites to begin with, not because of some kindness in their hearts, but to get noticed.

Possibly more true than one might think. Not saying it's a bad move.

[Peppered]

I agree that EJ's policy on infracting people for not capitalizing the right words, not leaving a space after the punctuation, misspelling certain words was wayy over-the-top but boy did those guys really deliver on theory-crafting. Haven't heard about icy-veins though, i'll give them a look.

[Deleted]

Well ion is now fucking up the game at blizzard instead of just playing it. That's one of the bigger reasons.

Oh boy, Ion is the new Ghostcrawler now I guess.

[Roadblock]

Back in the day, they were pretty much the authority on game mechanics, with their guys being the first ones to spot bugs and knowing stuff about the game often better than Blizzard themselves. Anything that was a consensus on EJ you could pretty much treat in-game as gospel and look smart to others with, but lately it seems they just faded into obscurity.

Ion Fuzzykoalas "pruned" them.

[Veyne]

Not really tiresome considering his record, or are you one of the 7 people in reality that enjoyed wod?

Ion's the lead encounter designer, right?

Last I heard, raid encounters were the one thing that WASN'T lacking in WoD. At least that seemed to the be the popular opinion DURING WoD. I only watched the raiding scene last expansion, I don't really have first hand experience.