1. #2221
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboozler View Post
    I never said that time-gating things makes any content harder or easier. Please, in full context, show me where I state time-gating things make them strictly more difficult. You claimed time-gating "ruins" the quest for an item, and I disagreed with that. I'm not sure why you're hell bent on trying to convince this forum that I said anything other than that. So no, I don't agree. You honestly try your best to manipulate peoples' posts to cater to your own need for forum drama.

    Anyway, cheers to Blizzard for making worthwhile content not immediately available. And second cheers to not giving us any hints!
    What I said was that time gating something like this and not telling people it's time gated, but saying its in the game and working as intended, is cruel and unimaginative. Time gating is nit a magical fixitall. It's not an added difficulty or an extra brain teaser. It doesn't make anything more epic. It just prolongs the time it takes to do something. I gave an example of a thing it works with like AK, because it gives a constant sense of progression. In this case you have people looking for it, gms supposedly giving false leads, people trolling and Devs not saying anything. If it ends up being time gated making it for all intends and purposes just not available yet, then that does ruin the search and the hours people so far has put into it.

    Time gating it does not make it more epic when you get it. Especially not when you find out it's the actual trigger, and not even a step on the way.

    As I said I have no interest in the personal attacks you like coming with. You started the drama by assaulting my completely neutral to other people's post with. Just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaker View Post
    If you're going to go around making bold claims you should back them up with a source. This is how false information gets spread, and it does the opposite of help. Keep up the SJW routine though, you're helping the search immensely.
    If he starts his post with "I think", it's not a bold statement, it's an idea which we need in this search for clues and hints. The more ideas and thoughts the better. Please stop being negative, let's try and keep it friendly so we can find the damn thing together.

  3. #2223
    Quote Originally Posted by henrox View Post
    Please stop being negative, let's try and keep it friendly so we can find the damn thing together.
    Basically this. Stop fighting on petty stuff and do not derail the thread.
    Non ti fidar di me se il cuor ti manca.

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    Seriously guys, go fight somewhere else. You're complaining about the people coming up with the TF dwarf in Azsuna, but you're even worse than them. At least they try to help. You, you're just being rude and toxic, filling up the thread with non related content that hide potential info.
    So please, stop splitting the community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minkin View Post
    Maybe im completely wrong, i dont know, I received a reward today for a key to a secret room in vault of the wardens - and tried to google it but found nothing apart from some guy noticing there was a secret room - the item in my bag now display "retrieving item information" - i don't know if its related or of any use at all
    This guy posted something that actually need answers, and noone is speaking about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinya View Post
    Seriously guys, go fight somewhere else. You're complaining about the people coming up with the TF dwarf in Azsuna, but you're even worse than them. At least they try to help. You, you're just being rude and toxic, filling up the thread with non related content that hide potential info.
    So please, stop splitting the community.



    This guy posted something that actually need answers, and noone is speaking about it...
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can get keys like that to other dungeons too, like Black Rook Hold. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinya View Post
    Seriously guys, go fight somewhere else. You're complaining about the people coming up with the TF dwarf in Azsuna, but you're even worse than them. At least they try to help. You, you're just being rude and toxic, filling up the thread with non related content that hide potential info.
    So please, stop splitting the community.



    This guy posted something that actually need answers, and noone is speaking about it...
    I was in VotW mythic yesterday to do some achievements. I'm not sure what room you guys are talking about. There is one near the boss that seems to be blocked by rocks from a cave-in. Is that the one?

  7. #2227
    Quote Originally Posted by TheOutlawRogue View Post
    soo rogues where the only class that learned draconic at the launch of wotlk right? (a few rogues learned it, not every rogue)
    Also, some learned Titan instead. Maybe ought to search for more things like this that aren't understandable.

  8. #2228
    Quote Originally Posted by Mibzo View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can get keys like that to other dungeons too, like Black Rook Hold. :-)
    If that's the case, the correlation between blackrook hold and vault of the wardens is actually somewhat tangible. Since vault of the wardens seems to be one of the most likely places to find something of interest. Within our rogue order we have ties with black rook hold already. In our vault there's also a painting of raven crest and the painting on the left of our vault is also in black rook hold on the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibzo View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can get keys like that to other dungeons too, like Black Rook Hold. :-)
    Yes there are keys like that.
    Maybe i misunderstood his post though, i thought he was talking about the reward after using the key, not the key.
    Sorry my bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nupomaniac View Post
    I was in VotW mythic yesterday to do some achievements. I'm not sure what room you guys are talking about. There is one near the boss that seems to be blocked by rocks from a cave-in. Is that the one?
    I don't know either... Should ask to the guy himself, if he ever comes back.

  10. #2230
    So due to some hint I saw pages back being "Vault", have we tried grapple hooking everything in the vault? steath to detect traps in the uncrowned vault? picklock the chest? I tried the picklock thing myself but didn't have any luck. I see there is this golden lever by Dagg, and It could be possible that we need to get lucky with the uncrowned vault to get that lever as a possible use, or will be intractable at a certain level like the ashbringer's hidden skin.

  11. #2231
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    Quote Originally Posted by pawsome View Post
    If that's the case, the correlation between blackrook hold and vault of the wardens is actually somewhat tangible. Since vault of the wardens seems to be one of the most likely places to find something of interest. Within our rogue order we have ties with black rook hold already. In our vault there's also a painting of raven crest and the painting on the left of our vault is also in black rook hold on the wall.
    Yeah, i thought so too.
    I didn't have the keys myself, so i just checked in wowhead and wowdb (since a lot of rogues would have done that i think).
    But it didn't lead anywhere for now.

    EDIT : I mean, i thought about the keys and minibosses in these, that could lead somewhere.
    The paintings thing got rejected some pages ago.
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  12. #2232
    It's really frustrating to see people pick up a "knowledge fight" out of thin air. We are supposed to share our knowledge and thoughts as mature, sensible humans do.

  13. #2233
    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolph View Post
    Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but there are these tablets around these drogbar for a world quest, that also involves elementium. Someone translated them from Draconic somehow and they say the following. I don't think they realize it, but it's an obvious reference to the creation of the bindings. However I can't find anything relevant anywhere else. They are Ancient Neltharion Tablets. I couldn't find any NPC named Izgarogg. Unfortunately i cant link the post because I just made this account, but do a search for ancient neltharion tablet draconic

    know that I, izgarogg, last of the scales
    has transcribed this knowledge as
    dictated by my lord, Neltharion, Earth Warder of Azeroth

    This Tablet marks our fiftieth attempt at merging the elements
    into a binding ore. My lord believes this shall be the ultimate
    tool in his rise to power, but we may be many years, if not ages
    away from discovering a stable solution.

    below is the recipe of our search to remove impurities. it has proven
    powerful but will need additional refinement

    Weapons of Deathwing

    Dialog from the WQ:
    Jale Rivermane says: The drogbar have uncovered an ancient knowledge from the days of Deathwing. I can hear the spirits cry out in pain. Please, stop them!
    Uzgarogg the Seer says: The secrets of the Earth Warder is OURS!
    Gazarogg the Stonespeaker says: Deathwing's secrets belong to us now, shan ronir!
    Jale Rivermane says: This dark ore, this... elementium, it is a weapon that I hope the drogbar never master.

    So they're just experimenting with elementium, but nothing perfect. Seems like a solid hunting area for a working binding though.
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  14. #2234
    Quote Originally Posted by Speaker View Post
    Anytime you need to start off with "I think" and end with "don't quote me on that", it is probably best to just keep it to yourself.
    Anytime you need to post stuff on a thread that doesn't add anything useful, it is probably best to just keep it to youself.

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  15. #2235
    I just got a archaeology legendary quest to meet a guy in Aszuna from the class Hall. I'm not sure what it leads to, but for now I have to do 25 archaeology thingys. I haven't got the time to finish it yet.

    I played only outlaw, have around 17 traits, unlocked the 2nd artifact knowledge, the 100 world quests achiev and finished the Brann Bronzebeard and Sir Finley Mrglton quests.

    Is this related in anyway or just a common thing for all classes?

    EDIT: words

  16. #2236
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibukai View Post
    I just got a archaeology legendary quest to meet a guy in Aszuna from the class Hall. I'm not sure what it leads to, but for now I have to do 25 archaeology thingys. I haven't got the time to finish it yet.

    I played only outlaw, have around 17 traits, unlocked the 2nd artifact knowledge, the 100 world quests achiev and finished the Brann Bronzebeard and Sir Finley Mrglton quests.

    Is this related in anyway or just a common thing for all classes?

    EDIT: words
    It's just the archeology quest you get every 1 or 2 weeks.

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    just throwing this out there, no earthly idea, but what if the gems are spots on main map, with the mana gem being island you fish up drowned mana at?, like, make an overhead map of the area with dots where said crystals are, and compare them to zones? perhaps its suramar where you feed ancient mana to the people rather than fishing island for drowned mana, just line up an overview of where the dots are to different zone maps, and see if any of them overlay actual...

    idk fits rogues a bit as pattern recognition specialists (?) finding patterns to things like walking through guards on fangs of the father questline, the assn artifact questline(idk about others) etc, it's like finding points of spots on a map but putting them around the room in a subterfuge'ish way...

    pure speculation ofc, but thought i'd throw my two cents in.
    Still I cry, tears like pouring rain, Innocent is my lurid pain.

  18. #2238
    bro your 2 cents were thrown 50 pages ago multiple times
    the gems are not thunderfury gems , they are ancient mana gems found all over suramar

  19. #2239
    10 Hours till deviant Legacy maybe it is really something
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  20. #2240
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    Maybe there are more hints in Noggenfogger's vault:

    I was wondering what that "flying golden nugget" (imgur . com / a / pyq0wis) is doing.

    I found a copy of it in Highmountain in a cave: imgur . com / a / H7mAu
    The cave version is used to reduce your falling damage by 90% giving you the ability to jump down into an arena with elite dudes. (First option)

    The cave is the same one as mentioned before in this thread where the topic were the draconic deathwing plates that might also give hints for a hidden skin:
    mmo-champion . com / threads / 2019001-Ancient-Neltharion-Tablet-written-in-Draconic-with-translation

    Location can be found here:
    wowhead . com / npc=102629 / brick

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