Gosh, the Night Elves lost so much

[Trassk]

Night elves? Really? Okay they have lost things over the years, that comes from living as long as they have, but looking at the draenei or forsaken, they've had it worse, I mean how can you compare the societal shift the nelves have had, compared to having the majority of your race wiped out, hunted across the universe, your home world turned into a corrupted hellhole, or being killed in your homeland, raised as a walking corpse, freed but hated by your own friends and family for something done to you.

When I think tragic races in warcraft, night elves don't even come close.

[Ealyssa]

The kaldorei lost nothing. They choose a different path when the saw what the "Suramar path" went to : nagas, the legion, the sundering, death and suffering.

You can't freely play with magic, it has a cost. The night elves understood that after their mistake. And they built a society closer to nature, with druidism as the focal point.

[Beloren]

You can't freely play with magic, it has a cost. The night elves understood that after their mistake. And they built a society closer to nature, with druidism as the focal point.

'you can't "freely" play with magic? where did you hear that... you can't be reckless or disrespectful of magic - that's the lesson learnt.. and the reason they stopped using the arcane for spells was because they felt it would bring back the Legion and so the cost out weighed the benefits and they were noble enough to sacrifice their desire even birthright (even if shame and regret were the motivation or more likely a sense of responsibilty)- not because of any "you can't play with magic" - I mean look at how magical their nature based society was. And when they realized arcane magic calling back the legion no longer mattered, and could have been disguised to prevent such, they started using it again in catalcysm

The night elves in Suramar were gifted enough to know that was not the case, and they certainly were not going to repeat the reckless use of magic Azshara did, but they ended up having to rely on the magic for everything, despite their great discipline, what choice do yo have but to use your source for more and more when you ran out of natural resources. Even clothes and armor and food were done using magic - it is too much usage, imbalancing them further, without nature around to provide coutners, but unlike Azshara's days, this time they had good cause. failing to do so would have meant death, which is how they evolved into even more night elven than night elves, giving them the tag nightborne elves. but that's the reason for their woes, not that magic is evuls or you can't or shouldn't use it, magic is really good, if it is the right kind, and as the night elves now know, as well as the nightborne after this period, it is really good if used in balance.

[Mehrunes]

Now that we know that the Well of Eternity and its subsequent incarnations are themselves the lifeblood of the Titan world-soul inhabiting the world of Azeroth, destroying them may not be the best thing for us or for the world in general.

Well, not so sure about the last one. The first Well was basically a wound so messing around with it could problematic for the World Soul. But the subsequent wells are like, I dunno, blood in a bowl? Not sure how destroying them would affect Azeroth, though I suppose there's always a chance (especially if the destruction is volatile). Unless you meant it in a way that doing so would weaken the races and make them less effective at defending the world.

[Deleted]

The playable Night Elves lost almost nothing. They weren't part of the Highborne built-cities in the first place. At the end of the day, one could tell that the current Kaldorei civilization gained with the self-culling of the sycophant aristocracy.

[Deleted]

They did, and now the nightborne will lose their glory. I feel dirty while doing quests for that communist cuck mongrel who resides in his subelf hollow.

Infracted.

[Putin-Chan]

They did, and now the nightborne will lose their glory. I feel dirty while doing quests for that communist cuck mongrel who resides in his subelf hollow.

Nightborne? Communist? What are you on? Did you go on /pol/ on 4chan and get mentally scarred from the idocy?

[Deleted]

Nightborne? Communist? What are you on? Did you go on /pol/ on 4chan and get mentally scarred from the idocy?

And here I invite you on a free reading trip; you may proceed to investigate mother comment AGAIN.

[Putin-Chan]

And here I invite you on a free reading trip; you may proceed to investigate mother comment AGAIN.

If "that communist cuck mongrel" is Thalryssa, where the actual fuck are you getting the idea that they are communists? Link me a quest that says anything about communism or Thalryssa incites any allegory or allusion towards communism, or are you just spewing out words you use on 4chan to insult something you disagree with.

Am I now a sjw freeloading cuck bernie supporter for pointing out the stupidity in your point?

Here's a little lesson on Suramar:

Elisande sides with the legion because she sees no other option, and saves all the mana for her gang of yes-men in a city full of mana dependent people. You, the player are siding with the rebels to keep the populace from turning into withered and destroying the civilization of Suramar, as well as preventing Gul'dan from using the nightwell as a font of power to summon the Legion from.

This is not blizzard saying "rah rah destroy the 1%!! REEE", this is blizzard saying "crack ain't whack, kids"

I tried my best to write in neanderthal for you.

[Deleted]

If "that communist cuck mongrel" is Thalryssa, where the actual fuck are you getting the idea that they are communists? Link me a quest that says anything about communism or Thalryssa incites any allegory or allusion towards communism, or are you just spewing out words you learned on 4chan to insult something you disagree with.

Am I now a sjw freeloading cuck bernie supporter for pointing out the stupidity in your point?

you are, but for other reasons. and you truly went easy on yourself Sir!

it is a special day for a SPECIAL customer, you are free once again to read the initial post.

tip: 'his'

[Putin-Chan]

you are, but for other reasons. and you truly went easy on yourself Sir!

it is a special day for a SPECIAL customer, you are free once again to read the initial post.

tip: 'his'

Who the fuck is this "he," your first post in this thread has literally zero information nor substance. You're not quoting anyone, and the post above you wasn't about any specific character, I just assumed you just didn't know the gender of the main character of the zone, because I hold extremely low expectations for the intellegence of some people on this forum.

Is it illidan, is it the retarded druid dude (saves you from the fal'dorei), the quote from rommath from the other page? Is it fucking occuleth?

Can anyone else tell me who 'communist cuck' is? Because this dude is as dense as a rock.

[Deleted]

Who the fuck is this "he," your first post in this thread has literally zero information nor substance. I just assumed you just didn't know the gender of the main character of the zone, because I hold extremely low expectations for the intellegence of some people on this forum.

Is it illidan, is it the retarded druid dude, the quote from rommath from the other page? Is it fucking occuleth?

I think it is pretty clear, but if not, then, let it remain a mystery of ages. Communist cuck is out there, somwhere. Need to purge my hands, the very word is polluting my purebred skin.

[Zulkhan]

*grabs popcorn*

[Putin-Chan]

*grabs popcorn*

Nah, I'm done here. It's clear he just wants to call me stupid names instead of actually discussing.

I still need a translator though.

[Deleted]

I don't care about either.

There is nothing to discuss here, I have merely stated a fact.


for Elisande!

[Zulkhan]

Nah, I'm done here. It's clear he just wants to call me stupid names instead of actually discussing.

I still need a translator though.

He got banned anyway, so whatever.

Speaking of which, I'm glad to see that with Aucald in charge the lore forum is not anymore the wild Far West it used to be.

[Xeranath]

What rubbish. Sure, they lost a civilisation. But they gained a far far better life in service to Druidism and Elune. Suramar is a cesspit that is begging to be purged, regardless of any fel presence.

[Beloren]

What rubbish. Sure, they lost a civilisation. But they gained a far far better life in service to Druidism and Elune. Suramar is a cesspit that is begging to be purged, regardless of any fel presence.

Suramar has become a cesspit because of the Legion. Without the Legion, it like all societies, has some great aspects and people and some not so noble ones. It is not picture perfect like the new Kal'dorei druidic society, I mean they got it right, those guys could live in caves or in palaces and they'll just ooze serenity and wise perfecton -- until Tyrande opens her mouth .

Anyway, Nightborne society is less perfect and ideal morally all round unlike modern night elf society, it's like in perfecting magic, they lost sight of true nobility and good values they once eschewed, doing the right thing, acting with wisdom, grace and benevolence to too many became less important than titles, power, positions or comforts (sound familiar? so despite their advanced looking city, they took a step back from the true nobility they had possessed.

it's the Nightborne that should be in the alliance and the Night elves outside as the neutral race. Ancient Night elf society was supposed to be perfect, but they got arrogant and well, the world broke, don't trust the nightborne with it, they're the old style night elves already making questionable decisions - but that Thalyssra, she is their redeeming quality, she and her group. Hopefully, like the blood elves regained sanity, all the nightborne would too, and that will be that.

[Deleted]

Suramar has become a cesspit because of the Legion. Without the Legion, it like all societies, has some great aspects and people and some not so noble ones.

A completely addicted coward sycophant elitist society has any good aspect? Suramar, before Legion, was like the humans in Wall-E.

[Aucald]

A completely addicted coward sycophant elitist society has any good aspect? Suramar, before Legion, was like the humans in Wall-E.

There are a number of individuals within Suramar who are both kind and decent, who recognize their own plight and act accordingly. Like most cases within a highly stratified society it's the top elites that tend to set the tone of the society, but the lower classes who embody its essential "heart." Even Elisande herself is not a complete monster - her actions and Surmar's alliance with the Legion is born out of a fear for her people being unable to survive a war, especially when their allies are few by circumstance of their long seclusion.