Explosion in Manhattan

[Lenonis]

Lots of people on social media claiming it is a false flag operation by the Trump campaign.

Yes, "lots of people" from that one tweet you say you can't find now.

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From what's being reported the mayor is stating that it was an intentional act but so far they aren't considering an act of terror.

No claims of responsibility. I wonder what information they have which makes them comfortable saying they aren't considering it an act of terror. I would imagine there is surveillance footage available. Maybe it's a copycat or someone being a moron.

It is interesting that no one has life threatening injuries. That does seem to indicate that it wasn't a coordinated terror attack -- has there been an ISIS style attack that had no fatalities?

[NineSpine]

Yes, "lots of people" from that one tweet you say you can't find now.

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From what's being reported the mayor is stating that it was an intentional act but so far they aren't considering an act of terror.

No claims of responsibility. I wonder what information they have which makes them comfortable saying they aren't considering it an act of terror. I would imagine there is surveillance footage available. Maybe it's a copycat or someone being a moron.

It is interesting that no one has life threatening injuries. That does seem to indicate that it wasn't a coordinated terror attack -- has there been an ISIS style attack that had no fatalities?

I'm not sure what you mean by "ISIS style". There haven't been any successful attacks by ISIS in the US, and the attacks in Europe have been perpetrated by locals, not fighters sent over.

The reason they know it isn't terrorism is because terrorism doesn't mean anything except "brown people did it". They don't have the information yet to declare of brown people are responsible yet.

[Felya]

It is interesting that no one has life threatening injuries. That does seem to indicate that it wasn't a coordinated terror attack -- has there been an ISIS style attack that had no fatalities?

Speaking in the sense of probability versus number of occurrence, there must have been. They just do it too often for it to not happen. We are also lucky that those executing these attacks are morons.

[NineSpine]

Speaking in the sense of probability versus number of occurrence, there must have been. They just do it too often for it to not happen. We are also lucky that those executing these attacks are morons.

That's because we define terrorism by who does it. We tend not to call abortion clinic attacks or Jewish museum shootings to be terroristic.

[unbound]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/us/new...ion/index.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...hood/90605526/

The media is pretty slow in getting the facts out, it sounds more like a bombing from social media, some are reporting as many as 25 injured when a dumpster exploded. No confirmation that it is an IED yet.

Slow? They've been putting stuff out quickly and often.

Sorry to burst some people's bubbles, but real life is not like a video game or TV show where analysis is complete in 30 minutes. The location of the bomb is odd...main street, but not a particularly busy section of it. No obvious targets that make sense. I could be days or longer before positive links pop up.

In the meantime, I'm sure there will be plenty of speculation from the peanut gallery / armchair generals. It is likely a terrorist act, but until the motivation is determined, we don't really know which group or ideology is being pushed by the act. Of course, if it was done by a Christian (like most US terrorist acts are), then it will not be called terrorism, just someone mentally ill. Same story, different day.

[Felya]

That's because we define terrorism by who does it. We tend not to call abortion clinic attacks or Jewish museum shootings to be terroristic.

We might, I don't. But, here I was speaking more globally. Including those, that cause kids in Israel to be taught not to pick up toys on the ground, due to a history of terrorism. It simply too much of a regular thing all over the world, for there to never be a case of an attack from ISIS that didn't harm anyone. If you toss die enouph times you will hit a 6...

[NineSpine]

We might, I don't. But, here I was speaking more globally. Including those, that cause kids in Israel to be taught not to pick up toys on the ground, due to a history of terrorism. It simply too much of a regular thing all over the world, for there to never be a case of an attack from ISIS that didn't harm anyone. If you toss die enouph times you will hit a 6...

Sure, but that doesn't answer what the hell an ISIS style attack is

[Felya]

In the meantime, I'm sure there will be plenty of speculation from the peanut gallery / armchair generals. It is likely a terrorist act, but until the motivation is determined, we don't really know which group or ideology is being pushed by the act. Of course, if it was done by a Christian (like most US terrorist acts are), then it will not be called terrorism, just someone mentally ill. Same story, different day.

The game of, in which "bad" direction is this ass hole think US is heading...

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Sure, but that doesn't answer what the hell an ISIS style attack is

lol any attack...

[Al Gorefiend]

Nobody dead, that's good news.

Thank god. I hope the injuries weren't too severe.

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crazy to see how deluded some people are in terms of accepting terrorism.

Left wing idealists are causing alot of problems at the moment with being in denial about the reality of the world

[lockedout]

Sure, but that doesn't answer what the hell an ISIS style attack is

http://www.vocativ.com/360127/isis-s...nyc-explosion/
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-18-11-02-21

[Lenonis]

Sure, but that doesn't answer what the hell an ISIS style attack is

It seems, at least to me, that most islamic terror is a suicide attack style. So you generally at least have the perpetrators getting themselves killed or gunned down by police. Suicide bombings or mass shooting last-stand style.

The Boston Bombing was a bit of an exception but they still ended up having a shootout with police. They were also not directly connected to a terror group.

It just doesn't seem that a coordinated (maybe that's a better word than "ISIS style") attack would have done more damage than this one did.

[NineSpine]

It seems, at least to me, that most islamic terror is a suicide attack style. So you generally at least have the perpetrators getting themselves killed or gunned down by police. Suicide bombings or mass shooting last-stand style.

The Boston Bombing was a bit of an exception but they still ended up having a shootout with police. They were also not directly connected to a terror group.

It just doesn't seem that a coordinated (maybe that's a better word than "ISIS style") attack would have done more damage than this one did.

Suicide bombings are a common tactic amongst forces that are at extreme disadvantage compared to their adversaries.

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http://www.vocativ.com/360127/isis-s...nyc-explosion/
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-18-11-02-21

Was the Oklahoma City bombing an ISIS STYLE ATTACK committed by a white nationalist a decade before ISIS existed?

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crazy to see how deluded some people are in terms of accepting terrorism.

Left wing idealists are causing alot of problems at the moment with being in denial about the reality of the world

The reality that right wing policies towards the Middle East have turned into a total mess?

[DJ117]

And it was done by a Muslim. Surprise surprise.

[Lenonis]

And it was done by a Muslim. Surprise surprise.

Do you have a source for this? Not seeing this pop up in any of the news outlets yet.

[Shibito]

Spin the wheel everybody who are we going to blame

1: ISIS
2: Putin
3: China
4: Gas Leak
5: Angry White Male
6: Violence incited by Trump
7: Obama
8: Illegal Immigrants

Alliance sylvanas haters.

[Mitters]

ANELElelele

Infracted

[TriHard]

I'm glad nobody died.

Rare news these days

[Auxora]

I see the whether to call it official "act of terrorism" debate has started among politicians again. It's so silly that every one of these attacks goes through that every time. It started with Beghazi, then San Berndardino, Orlando, etc. In the case even with SB and Orlando the attackers even said they were in support of ISIS, and there were still weeks of debates by politicians over calling it an act of terrorism or not. It seems like such a pointless debate wasting time trying to determine the reasoning behind the mind of the people that do it. If it's an attack that targets a bunch of random people for w/e reason, imo that's terrorism. No sense wasting resources trying to categorize it.

[Venant]

So now the NYPD is investigating some lunatic 'SJW' post on Tumblr where a manifesto was put up claiming responsibility for the bombing.

http://pix11.com/2016/09/18/read-the...the-ny-bomber/