Legendary droprate is LOW

[Thetruth1400]

We have around 30 active in my guild at the moment (way down from numbers pre-WoD). Currently out of the 30 active I believe only a couple haven't hit 110 yet on any toon. And about 1/3 have either 2 or 3 110s.

We have zero legendaries in our guild so far.


I'm a firm believer in the "theory" that some peoples accounts are flagged for high drops and some aren't. I have a friend who quit at WoD (who didn't play vanilla but we bought TBC for him to get started). He got everything all the time. Never failed to get a drop. If he were playing I bet he'd be one of those with 2 legendaries already. I'm the one who never gets world drops/rare drops while content is current for that drop. So I fully expect to not get a legendary drop this expansion. Not QQ'ing as I've accepted that's just the way Blizz works.

Kind of feel like you might be onto something there. I pretty much didn't play for Cata, MoP, or WoD other than a month or two here or there. I came back for Legion, ran Sunwell for fun and got the bow to drop. Ran it again the next week on the same character for transmog gear, got the bow again. Seemed a bit odd to me really.

That being said, there is only one person in my guild that has any of the Legion legendaries, and they have two of them thanks to that bug. No one else has even seen one drop in any of their groups. Seems dramatically low, considering there is supposed to be this hidden protection from never not getting one there. Not saying everyone needs one right this instant, but some kind of idea on changes of actually seeing one would be nice, especially considering some of them are garbage for certain specs / PvE or PvP focus.

[rasako]

It's suppose to be low and no one will eject you just because you don't have it. Not sure what the problem is.

Not wise to speak in absolutes. People WILL eject you, it just probably won't happen more than 50% of the time and if someone does eject you for not having one they're either stupid or lying to you.

OT though, I'm in a guild of incredibly active players. There are at least 50 people on at all times and only 1 player has a legendary out of the 150-175 people I've seen playing at some point in time every single day since legion launch. I have the armory app on my phone and I have an insanely boring job so I spend a good amount of time posting auctions or doing other things when I have down time so I've at least somewhat been keeping track.

[Aggrophobic]

People weren't reporting massive unbalanced drops in legendaries on beta, and a week into live, Blizzard released the duplicate protection system to keep you from getting the same legendary. It modifies your legendary drop chances, turns on after you get the first, and started a week after launch while not being tested during all of beta. Everything lines up too well for it not be it. Plus, Blizzard know's how to do a BLP system, they've been doing it since MoP with coins.

Speculations though, right? Most people weren't actually max level and doing world quests and hc/mythic dungeons the first week.
It might be that way though but still.

Also, they obviously aren't familiar enough with thoes systems as they fucked up bad with the drop rates here.

[Deleted]

Couldn't agree more I feel the same way. The bug with the legendary's and how blizzard has handled it has killed a lot of my buzz atm. Now I log in do my daily chest and log out.

I am ilvl 843 (my Paladin) and I can't be asked to grind dungeons or other WQ's anymore since good chance the system is still broke. I didn't mind it being a low chance at legendary's but it being broken just outright sucks.

I have even considered letting my sub laps until all of the LFR raiding is open and catch up systems are in place. Between this and all the gating shit they are doing with legion (looking at you kara) I am losing my drive to play.

So much gating and broken shit.....urrgg.

Talking about broken shit. I have seen screenshots and heard a lot of people talking about the artifact research catchup mechanic they implemented being buggy as hell. One of the reasons I personally rushed to 110 was to get my artifact research going as fast as possible (reached 110 9 hours after the gates were opened) and I saw screenshots of people, who reached 110 a few days after me being ahead in research, because the catchup mechanic is broken. All those broken systems diminish my motivation to really tryhard and get the most out of my character.
Of course people could be lying and screenshots could be manipulated, but it seems to be a recurring problem, so there could be some truth to that.

[Ealyssa]

Holy shit its not even 3 weeks and everyone expect to have a legendary...

Stop the crying, please. And I'm saying that having more than 5 days played at 110, doing every mythics on every lockout and at least 5 heroics/day. Without having legendary (my guild currently got 2).

It's. Three. Weeks.

Come back with your tears in 2 months.

[Jtbrig7390]

Talking about broken shit. I have seen screenshots and heard a lot of people talking about the artifact research catchup mechanic they implemented being buggy as hell. One of the reasons I personally rushed to 110 was to get my artifact research going as fast as possible (reached 110 9 hours after the gates were opened) and I saw screenshots of people, who reached 110 a few days after me being ahead in research, because the catchup mechanic is broken. All those broken systems diminish my motivation to really tryhard and get the most out of my character.

Yep couldn't agree more.

I am done farming AP since I can just log in every 4-5 days and level my AK. Getting that to a point where I can just do a few WQ's and level my weapon.

I have lost a lot of drive due to broken systems, shit performance and all the god dam gating. Everything in legion is on a timer and its boring as hell. My Paladin atm has 7 wow sub tokens just waiting to be used.

Once my sub runs out in oct I think I am just going to walk away for a bit. I log in for at most 1hr a day now as it is.

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Holy shit its not even 3 weeks and everyone expect to have a legendary...

See its reply's like this that show you don't have a clue on why people are pissed.

[masterhorus8]

Speculations though, right? Most people weren't actually max level and doing world quests and hc/mythic dungeons the first week.
It might be that way though but still.

Also, they obviously aren't familiar enough with thoes systems as they fucked up bad with the drop rates here.

It's better speculation than the crap about the bad luck protection or the "tagged" accounts for better RNG. And a lot of people were running heroics the first week, most likely not most, but enough to make an actual statistical conclusion for Blizzard. Besides, there's a difference between doing a general blanket % increase drop like with a BLP system as opposed to removing a specific item off of your loot table altogether.

[Crackalackin]

~40 active people in my guild. We've now had two legendaries drop in the past 3 days. Both on alts within an hour or two of hitting 110. Nothing on mains at all. One lucky as hell alt is possible although extremely unlikey. Two? No. The system is broken and they have not fixed it regardless of what they claim.

[Ealyssa]

See its reply's like this that show you don't have a clue on why people are pissed.

Give me a break. "People" are pissed because they don't have their legendary, period. You can sugar coat it as much as you want, in the end its all "MA GAD I STIL DONT HAS LEGNDARYZ"

[Deleted]

Give me a break. "People" are pissed because they don't have their legendary, period. You can sugar coat it as much as you want, in the end its all "MA GAD I STIL DONT HAS LEGNDARYZ"

This comment shows you didn't bother reading up on any of the concerns people actually had and just came to troll. Good job. Don't even know why I bothered to reply to such obvious bait.

[Jtbrig7390]

Give me a break. "People" are pissed because they don't have their legendary, period. You can sugar coat it as much as you want, in the end its all "MA GAD I STIL DONT HAS LEGNDARYZ"

Like I said you clearly haven't read anything because not having legendary's already isn't the issue.

I guess expecting people like you to know the topic at hand is too much to ask.

[MoFalcon]

This is NOT QQ thread. Let's just summarize up some facts, buds.

his whole post was nothing but QQ.
his facts were all opinions....

what a waste of all our time to read his post.

LEGENDARY should have a very low drop rate...ITS LEGENDARY.

[TheRabidDeer]

I'll say this, I'd be much happier with a legendary progression rather than a random legendary drop. Being able to see progression and how close I am to a legendary would feel a lot better than "nothing.... nothing.... nothing... BAM LEGENDARY". Though I guess the gambling "a legendary could be right around the corner" method works better at retaining a playerbase than having another progression system.

[Jtbrig7390]

his whole post was nothing but QQ.
his facts were all opinions....

what a waste of all our time to read his post.

LEGENDARY should have a very low drop rate...ITS LEGENDARY.

While I agree it should have a low drop rate your reason is stupid. You do realize Legendary only means the quality of the item not the rate that people have it right?

Blizzard has even commented about this.

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I'll say this, I'd be much happier with a legendary progression rather than a random legendary drop. Being able to see progression and how close I am to a legendary would feel a lot better than "nothing.... nothing.... nothing... BAM LEGENDARY". Though I guess the gambling "a legendary could be right around the corner" method works better at retaining a playerbase than having another progression system.

To be honest I agree.

[IIamaKing]

In your world, what is "tons"?

I bet literal tons of people have them, figuring 150 pounds per person, only like 15 people would need to have a legendary for 1 ton, I bet more then 30 people have em to make up those "tons".

[Vynestra]

I got mine out of an emmissary cache yesterday.

A few things to add:

1. in 25 days we can equip two, I think it's highly unlikely blizzard would allow that go out out without anticipating a lot of people would have atleast 1 and start getting 2

2. The failsafe system probably works like coins, the more fails the higher the chance.

3. One thing I dislike about the system, is that some of them completely suck. I would have much preferred to be able to target one or have a higher chance of getting one I designate, at it kinda sucks to just get one that's neutral with a useless effect. (Yes I know, i'm QQing about getting a legendary, yes I know many don't have it. It is still useful b/c of the secondary stats on the ring I got, but it's a pretty terrible feeling knowing the legendary you got is pretty poop and who knows how long til you get your next)

Overall the system has some pretty big flaws, it is the first iteration. But some more transparency and options would be nice.

[MoFalcon]

no matter how they do it, there will always be people that get butthurt over the process.

The reasons above for this type of process and having it progression gets people who dont have the time to commit to do all of the steps complaining about that type of process.

you got elitists who think only they should have it and think it should be a long, hard process.

can never make everyone happy..

and the fact that it is LEGENDARY and RARE should mean its harder to get and the chances should be lower. always a few whining bitches who will complain about ANY process.

[ShiyoKozuki]

They said they won't be balancing EN around people having legendaries but they said they will be in nighthold which means they expect people to get them by like 4-5 months from now.

source? please and thank you

[Deleted]

The reasons above for this type of process and having it progression gets people who dont have the time to commit to do all of the steps complaining about that type of process.

If you're too casual to do 10-15 LFRs over a span of three years for MoP or almost two years for WoD you really have no right to complain about not getting a legendary or complaining that getting a legendary is being too hard. Just my two cents.
I am not going to bother to explain why this system is unfair towards any kind of player be it somebody, who can only play once a month or high end mythic raiders. You can find all of the points on this subject in this and many other threads. By the way most of the frustration is caused by the bug Blizzard confirmed not the legendaries itself. You should really first try to read and understand, what people are actually saying before you start insulting them.

[Deleted]

I got a legendary today hurra...wtf is this shit -.- http://www.wowdb.com/items/139830-demon-in-a-box

meh