Derrick Rose rape accusations raise issues of consent

[Mormolyce]

Honestly if you think there's grey area or room for confusion with consent, you should not be having sex with anyone.

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There's nothing lamer than asking.
You look like a sub creepo.

What a shit world.

There's heaps of sexy ways to ask.

[Independent voter]

"You want to f'uck?"

How hard was that?

[Garnier Fructis]

There are a whole series of these, because the reality is any woman can end your life any moment for any or no reason. Especially if you actually had sex with them...

The first leaves out a critical part of the story, which is that 'nearing ejaculation' was 30 seconds. The picture you've got leaves this out to make the impression that he didn't have time to react.

Given that he was actually set up and the whole thing was a plot to get him jailed, I question why the person who made that image decided to lie-by-omission instead of tell the truth, when the truth is also damning. I can only guess that the story as presented was more useful to bludgeon feminism with. So much for integrity.

And, what is wrong with the second? If you get raped and then have consensual sex afterwards with your rapist, guess what: that's still rape, and still a crime.

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Honestly if you think there's grey area or room for confusion with consent, you should not be having sex with anyone.

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There's heaps of sexy ways to ask.

Yes, if you're a sub creepo.

[Mormolyce]

"Nearing ejaculation".

Quick google of the guy's name, turns out he was convicted of failing to stop having sex within 30 seconds of her withdrawing consent. Half a minute is heaps of time to stop.

It was overturned years later as it was a setup by his ex wife in any case, so it wouldn't have made any difference.

As for the second, I don't even know what your problem is. Like in many rape cases it was her word vs. his, in this case the jury believed her.

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Yes, if you're a sub creepo.

Or if you have an ounce of charisma.

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There's nothing lamer than asking.
You look like a sub creepo.

What a shit world.

There's nothing lamer than being reported to the police because you didn't bother to make sure someone wanted to.

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There's nothing lamer than being reported to the police because you didn't bother to make sure someone wanted to.

Have you ever been with a girl in such circumstances?

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"Nearing ejaculation".

Quick google of the guy's name, turns out he was convicted of failing to stop having sex within 30 seconds of her withdrawing consent. Half a minute is heaps of time to stop.

It was overturned years later as it was a setup by his ex wife in any case, so it wouldn't have made any difference.

As for the second, I don't even know what your problem is. Like in many rape cases it was her word vs. his, in this case the jury believed her.

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Or if you have an ounce of charisma.

Yes, nothing more charismatic than asking for consent.

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Nothing gets a woman more dry than asking for permission.

Same goes for a guy.
It's almost like this new generation is made of scripted robots who are alien to the concept of body language, reading the mood and spontaneity.

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"Nearing ejaculation".

Quick google of the guy's name, turns out he was convicted of failing to stop having sex within 30 seconds of her withdrawing consent. Half a minute is heaps of time to stop.

It was overturned years later as it was a setup by his ex wife in any case, so it wouldn't have made any difference.

As for the second, I don't even know what your problem is. Like in many rape cases it was her word vs. his, in this case the jury believed her.

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Or if you have an ounce of charisma.

.... you don't see the scenarios depicted in those pictures as absurd?

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Same goes for a guy.
It's almost like this new generation is made of scripted robots who are alien to the concept of body language, reading the mood and spontaneity.

Most likely I would guess they never found themselves in the situation. This is a very specific scenario. Not everyone is into one night stands I guess.

But yeah... it's a shit world.

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Most likely I would guess they never found themselves in the situation. This is a very specific scenario. Not everyone is into one night stands I guess.

But yeah... it's a shit world.

Indeed. Never thought I would see the day we agree on something.

/fist bump

[Prothynyas]

It's bizarre that a superstar, former MVP would do something like this!!

really a smiley face ?
you put a smiley face there..

its that attitude that kills this these posts ya know , its a serious subject and you go smiley face ( eek ) at the end ...
now i don't even care what that guy did , all thanks to that eek smiley face comment

**Anyone else following this high profile case?**

NOT ANYMORE ..

try to be serious pls without goofing around

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Indeed. Never thought I would see the day we agree on something.

/fist bump

Ah don't judge me for when I'm trolling you guys

[Damosapien]

If you think sex after consensual sex and before more consensual sex, without violence or threat, is rape you are either soft in the head or being purposefully obtuse...

[Merkava]

Ah don't judge me for when I'm trolling you guys

Djalil, you beat things with sticks for a living. Girls already look at you as a sub creepo.

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Djalil, you beat things with sticks for a living. Girls already look at you as a sub creepo.

Now now you can call us many things. But subs... sir, subs we ain't.

[-Zait-]

I guess he rose to the occasion

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Jesus Christ almighty

Last year, a British police department worked with an animation team to clarify sexual consent by comparing it using a cup of tea. The video went viral – even J.K. Rowling shared it.

The video explains that even if people say they want “tea,” they still can change their mind. It also talks about not forcing someone to drink “tea” if they are unconscious.

"Maybe they were conscious when you asked them if they wanted tea, and they said 'yes.' But in the time it took you to boil the kettle, brew the tea and add the milk, they are now unconscious. … Don’t make them drink the tea. … Unconscious people don’t want tea.”

The fuck like.

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I think that it would be good if the people who are supposed to be giving consent would be a bit more than absolutely clear about whether they've given consent or not, because there are more and more of these cases popping up where a violent, forcible rape absolutely didn't occur, and instead the alleged rapist was apparently under the impression that the person they were with actually wanted to have sex.

Yes, both parties should do their utmost to know whether the other party wants to have sex or not, but that knowledge is also dependent on what the other party says and does. People aren't omniscient. If you are giving mixed signals and the other party is mislead into thinking you want to go ahead, then there's some blame to be laid on you as well.

[Polyxo]

I think that it would be good if the people who are supposed to be giving consent would be a bit more than absolutely clear about whether they've given consent or not, because there are more and more of these cases popping up where a violent, forcible rape absolutely didn't occur, and instead the alleged rapist was apparently under the impression that the person they were with actually wanted to have sex.

Yes, both parties should do their utmost to know whether the other party wants to have sex or not, but that knowledge is also dependent on what the other party says and does. People aren't omniscient. If you are giving mixed signals and the other party is mislead into thinking you want to go ahead, then there's some blame to be laid on you as well.

If you're not sure whether they want you to, you probably shouldn't fuck someone.

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If you're not sure whether they want you to, you probably shouldn't fuck someone.

I'm saying that sometimes one party makes it seem like they want to, and the other party is sure that the first party wants to, and then it all ends up in tears because apparently the first party didn't want to after all, but didn't bother to say anything. People should make it clear what they want and what they don't want. Stop playing games and saying "you should know what I want" and "you should make the initiative" and all that BS. Just be blunt and clear about what it is you want and this stuff won't happen.