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    Revival is so underwhelming

    I'm thinking it should not even be used in a healing cooldown rotation anymore. It heals what, 15% of the raid's health? I'm guessing we're probably going to be able to use it as we see fit during an encounter when the raid is low but not in a cooldown rotation.

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    It will be fine once you unlock the Golden Trait for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spotnick View Post
    It will be fine once you unlock the Golden Trait for it.
    This. Unlock the trait and be happy with it.

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    even with the golden trait it's underwhelming.

    that said, all raid cds are significantly worse. they all feel underwhelming.

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    Need to consider how much mana you will use to heal 10million when you look at revival and the other raid healing cooldowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    even with the golden trait it's underwhelming.

    that said, all raid cds are significantly worse. they all feel underwhelming.
    This. Raid CDs are generally not that huge boost to healing they were in the previous addons, where you could negate complete mechanics with one CD - and the mechanics were tuned accordingly. But they are still very HPM/HPS effective, esp. in larger groups / raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    even with the golden trait it's underwhelming.

    that said, all raid cds are significantly worse. they all feel underwhelming.
    Not all raid cds. Only healing raid cds. Other raid cds are still powerful.
    Revival was nerfed more because we lose our extra 20% stance bouns healing.
    I remember revival was only 50% healing of tranquility in beta-testing.
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    For dungeons, yes, for raids, no.

    Revival becomes more powerful with more people in the group. It's pretty much the reason why MWs top the charts in healing on 40 man BGs like IoC and AV.

    In groups it does kinda suck. I use it mainly as an AoE dispel there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    For dungeons, yes, for raids, no.

    Revival becomes more powerful with more people in the group. It's pretty much the reason why MWs top the charts in healing on 40 man BGs like IoC and AV.

    In groups it does kinda suck. I use it mainly as an AoE dispel there.
    Nope. Revival is powerful in IoC and AV because of their absurd 300% healing for revival in PVP.

    In legion, we have lost multistrike. Also, haste and mastery do nothing to revival. That is why revival heals so little compared to other healing cds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cqwrteur View Post
    Nope. Revival is powerful in IoC and AV because of their absurd 300% healing for revival in PVP.

    In legion, we have lost multistrike. Also, haste and mastery do nothing to revival. That is why revival heals so little compared to other healing cds.
    Is there a site that lists the differences in abilities for PvP vs PvE? I did not know of this 300% PvP buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    Is there a site that lists the differences in abilities for PvP vs PvE? I did not know of this 300% PvP buff.
    I'm sorry it is not 300% but 200%.
    http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/4...july-15th-2016

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
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    Brewmaster
    Stat Template
    All damage done reduced by 25%
    Stamina: 70%
    Mastery: 25%
    Versatility: 0%


    Windwalker
    Stat Template
    Primary: 85%

    Spell Multipliers
    Fists of Fury deals 70% damage in PvP
    Strike of the Windlord deals 70% damage in PvP


    Mistweaver
    Stat Template
    All damage done reduced by 25%

    Spell Multipliers
    Revival heals for 200% in PvP


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    Quote Originally Posted by cqwrteur View Post
    I'm sorry it is not 300% but 200%.
    http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/4...july-15th-2016

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    MONK
    Brewmaster
    Stat Template
    All damage done reduced by 25%
    Stamina: 70%
    Mastery: 25%
    Versatility: 0%


    Windwalker
    Stat Template
    Primary: 85%

    Spell Multipliers
    Fists of Fury deals 70% damage in PvP
    Strike of the Windlord deals 70% damage in PvP


    Mistweaver
    Stat Template
    All damage done reduced by 25%

    Spell Multipliers
    Revival heals for 200% in PvP

    Interesting. Looks like the heavily buffed Fire Mage damage in PvP for some reason while nerfing pretty much everyone else.
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