I haven't noticed any new boss mechanics between Heroic and Mythic yet, just some variations in the trash pulls *The Lighting prod on Wranglers in Mythic Eye can't be stopped by an interupt f.e*.Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity
If you are comfortable with them in Heroic, you should do just fine tanking them in Mythic.
I dont mind people setting an Ilvl requirement, but for god's sake, be able to follow you own rules and atleast be at that level too, "LFM 840+ M NL", leader has 822 in ilvl. Anything else just seems stupid to do.
Here's the deal: I make my own groups, I don't ask for unreasonable ilvls. I always put 830 in for Mythics, which is what the LFG tool recommends. Does Mythic+0 actually need that much ? Nope. I both tanked and healed in 815-ish.
What do I get from 830+ puggies ? People who do 70k DPS. REGULARLY. Absolutely, mind boggingly awful. I don't keep a DPS meter open, but when I realize the boss should've died 3 minutes ago, I open it and what do I see..
So next week, if I need pugs for my Mythic+ groups, I'll start at 840. Or at 845. Does the dungeon need that much ? Nope. Does that ilvl guarantee quality ? Nope.
What it does do is hopefully weed out the seriously awful ones because they will be struggling to clear anything in the first place with their shitty 70k DPS, so they won't have that ilvl. A few weeks later, I'll ask 850+, to keep ahead of the average.
Does this suck for great players with alts or who don't have as much time/luck ? Yes it does. But when pugging I have no other metric to control the quality of who I get, so people angry about requirements, please, give me a break.
Yup this is the only thing that irks me. "840+ M speed run no bads" leader is like 818 doesn't have one mythic achievement just cracks me up.
The other one is half ass tanks who feel the world owes them something because they tank. I've been in so many where a tank is so toxic, belittles people and the min anyone says anything about their bad pulls or anything else they threaten to bail. So everyone being fearful of waiting another who knows how long has to kiss their ass to finish the run.
I have often regretted having spoken, but never for having not. -De Commynes
if you are willing to put that much effort why cant you click 3 times and write 1 sentence "lfm 835+ " to make your own group - like really do you get off from posing like a martyr ?
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pls stop with all those "true purpose" - people do dungeons because of milion reasons - for some people fun means going in there and absolutely obliterating the location - dont push charity propaganda on them it will never work.
i will be brutal this time - this is a mmorpg - you want to do hardmodes ? go and find a f.... GUILD - if you think you are to cool for it ? stick to hc dungeons and lfr - its not a shame to do lfr it can be fun to - if you want to do hardmodes find friends to do them with or go play a single player game not mmorpg.
People want to get carried. They want it easy, and then promptly complain that WoW isn't what it used to be and that Blizzard dumbed it down. It happens at the beginning of every expansion.
You can do Mythic dungeons at 810 fairly easily with some CC, but people ask for 830 because that's too much for them to handle. Sometimes I miss coordinating 3-5 CC in UBRS raids, but it does take longer.
Why though? They are organising the run, they get to set the rules. I would suggest that unless you see a proper minimum ilvl requirement (the in game one, not one that is typed out), then do not join the group. If some poor sucker ends up carrying the leader, that's their issue to deal with, not yours.
What kind of fascist do you have to be to mandate how everyone else plays?
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He has a point though. There is no reason outside of being nice to help other people gear.
You can't really force being a nice person.
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Have you not made any friends in this multi-player game?
I may pay my subscription every month, but I don't lose sight of the fact that the other 4/9/24/39 people I'm grouped with pay too.
It's could've and would've. Not could of and would of. Not sure when "of" started meaning "have," but everyone who thinks it does needs to go back to school.
Never understood why people get upset over other peoples requirements. If you have difficulties getting into a group and you feel competent just start your own group.
Never underestimate the unknown, or some shit. *shrugs i unno*
I just hit 110 last night... but for previous xpacs:
(1) What is the purpose of doing a run if you already out gear it?
(2) if lower than 830/840 doesn't mean you're bad... then having equal or higher than 830/840 doesn't mean you're good either
Its a poor benchmark to determine whether or not your run is going to be "fast/smooth/easy runs that dosen't take longer than needed"
I would argue that a person capable of entering said instance, that still needs rewards from it, has more motivation to both perform and watch their shit... than the guy you want on board.
But I don't typically play with elitest pricks these days. Bottom line is it is very narcissistic behavior... its not about having fun, and what can we do together to have fun and accomplish something. Its how can I use you, what can you do for me?
I don't get mad... I definitely don't seek you guys out. You requiring an equal or higher ilvl than the rewards for a dungeon tells me all I need to know about you and your run... so actually, "Thank you for telling me up front what kind of person you are so I can avoid you."
That's some double talking bullshit right there.
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I may pay my subscription every month, but I don't lose sight of the fact that the other 4/9/24/39 people I'm grouped with pay too.
Well, yeah, I wasn't implying that. But there's nothing wrong WITH being nice, and being nice is not inherently a bad thing, which seems to be his running theme here.
Like I said in this thread earlier, this game has grave problems with seemingly wanting people of the same team to be at competition with one another, or something.
All things at various points in WoW's history:
"We can't take him, he'll slow us down!"
"We can't play with him, he'll take our gear!"
"We can't help their guild, our guild matters!"
"We can't do this quest with people, it'll go slower!"
It's all just a real shame, really!