PVP impressions so far?

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Having lots of fun in pvp, can't wait for the season to start. Pretty sure we'll earn a decent amount of AP from rated pvp once the season starts, but I don't mind doing some world quests anyway.

Regarding balance, I just wish they toned down the leather classes, they're too strong. Also I wish they stopped reseting honor talents now instead of waiting for 7.1, but it's not the end of the world. I prestiged once to get my artifact appearance and I'm already lvl 20. Honor from skirmishes is decent now, and I suppose rated arenas will give even more honor. There's also a skirmish week soon.

[Mafic]

So once again PVP players are forced to do shitty PVE because of ancestral reasons

It is because Blizzard has become lazy forcing everyone to grind with no logical reason.

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1) Being forced to PvE for gear to pvp in is the dumbest thing ever.
2) what used to be baseline abilities are now pvp talents that you have to do an excruciating grind for because you're gimped as hell without the talents
3) World of MeleeCraft is real
4) Burst is stupid high
5) Artifact power causes severe imbalance. Artifacts need to be automatically filled in rated pvp.


This is by far the worst WoW pvp has ever been. Legion is a shit expansion from the start.

I am going to probably skip the entire expansion all together. It is just pure cancer and I don't see the RNG of RNG gear box system changing any time soon.

After the 3rd duplicate items from box is obtained people are going to go berserk.

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Pvp is complete garbage as usual because the clueless pvp developers don't understand the basic concept of balance of power in competitive games (which most Blizzard games fail at except starcraft).

Here we have turrety/vanilla style casters (except fire mage) while many melee are MOP style of mobility. Such a smart move Blizzard.

Worst developers when it comes to understanding competition, this pvp was always a gearfest before, now even without it its still shit

Gear is going to matter more now because there is no cap to PVE gear in instanced PVP and PVE gear is THE BEST gear for world PVP now.

[Woop Woop]

How are you farming AP otherwise?

Traits dont work in rated pvp, or so ive heard.

[Rolex Snob]

It feels like there is no reason to play battlegrounds... World quests and arena are where you get gear.

The pvp system really sucks and BGs are going to become a ghost town unless you actually get gear from boxes. 805 items don't cut it. Was this Holinka idiot wanting to eliminate BGs? What's the logic of not offering decent loot from BGs? They take almost as long as dungeons and are 10x harder to win than some silly dungeon. Even the pvp traits are meh since a lot of the first column of traits are best.

Also why even insult people with 35 AP rewards when you need 20,000+ at later tiers? Suck my fucking dick with that shit.

I hate Holinka, the man literally fucks up everything he has ever worked on.

[GrumpyJester]

Traits dont work in rated pvp, or so ive heard.

Not sure if that's true. Relics don't work in (un)rated PvP, but I doubt your artifact traits get disabled entirely.

[Osmeric]

It's been clear for many months that Legion was tossing PvP under the bus to keep it from overshadowing PvE rewards. The current sad state is a result of it being demoted to red-headed stepchild status.

[Rolex Snob]

It's been clear for many months that Legion was tossing PvP under the bus to keep it from overshadowing PvE rewards. The current sad state is a result of it being demoted to red-headed stepchild status.

Feels like pvp is an afterthought, I don't even think im going to bother with arenas this season, thankfully I got my arena master title before they killed that one...

I have been having more fun steam rolling world questers and random alliance level grinding anyway. There is a massive satisfaction camping some PVE nerd over and over and over and over again. If someone can rage out and have a negative experience playing wow because of me then I feel that's a nice fuck you to Holinka.

[WarTV]

the pace is quite pleasing. reminds of when arena was fun to play and even more fun to watch back in wrath. overall it is looking good.

[Dispirit]

Traits dont work in rated pvp, or so ive heard.

Traits do work in pvp. It is only the relics that are disabled. Relics do increase your iLvl though which does matter in pvp so they're still valuable.

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Traits dont work in rated pvp, or so ive heard.

I don't know about rated, but they work in BGs and Arenas for now. The stamina and damage from traits is applied, so does seem to do the ilevel of the weapon.

[Underverse]

Resto shamans and DH are OP, rogue, enh shaman and lock are strong. Everyone else will be fine once they tone these down.

[Saverem]

Burst too high right now.

[Jotaux]

I am in love with counterstrike totem.

[Kagthul]

Traits dont work in rated pvp, or so ive heard.

The you have heard wrong. Extra trait levels provided by relics dont apply, thats all.

[Kauko]

I love it. Cant wait for season to start. Now you can easily separate bad apples from the good ones...

[khazlol]

I love it. Cant wait for season to start. Now you can easily separate bad apples from the good ones...

how? i have not seen a more unbalanced release for years.

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what class/specc is doing the best right now in pvp? My main is currently a lock for pve but im not sure if i am gonna pvp on him or not. Been thinking on lvling on of these DH/rogue/shaman or druid.

[Snegovik]

Resto shamans and DH are OP, rogue, enh shaman and lock are strong. Everyone else will be fine once they tone these down.

As a Ret player, i must add Holy Wrath must be nerfed, even though I use it myself (and milk it every time) I admit its OP being able to take out 50% HP of up to 4 targets from you with in 10 yards. Imagine if you are running Rog/Ret/Healer or Uh/Ret/Healer and you are training healer, that 50% aoe dmg dump will rape healer's face after all his D-cds are gone.

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what class/specc is doing the best right now in pvp? My main is currently a lock for pve but im not sure if i am gonna pvp on him or not. Been thinking on lvling on of these DH/rogue/shaman or druid.

Id go with a rogue or droody, DH's aoe/clv will be nerfed soonish and their ST is ok not top end like Rogues/Arms/Rets/Enh. Enh is a gamble they are either total crap or very very good, while rogue and droodies are always either good or top tier

[Mafic]

It feels like there is no reason to play battlegrounds... World quests and arena are where you get gear.

The pvp system really sucks and BGs are going to become a ghost town unless you actually get gear from boxes. 805 items don't cut it. Was this Holinka idiot wanting to eliminate BGs? What's the logic of not offering decent loot from BGs? They take almost as long as dungeons and are 10x harder to win than some silly dungeon. Even the pvp traits are meh since a lot of the first column of traits are best.

Also why even insult people with 35 AP rewards when you need 20,000+ at later tiers? Suck my fucking dick with that shit.

I hate Holinka, the man literally fucks up everything he has ever worked on.

The goal was to force players in rated PVP play or PVE raids. They really don't like battlegrounds.

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Gear is going to matter more now because there is no cap to PVE gear in instanced PVP and PVE gear is THE BEST gear for world PVP now.[/QUOTE]

Wrong, gear basicsly doesn't matter at all. Gear is capped at 895, mythic raids give 880+ and you get 855-860 from around 1800 rating. This means an average pvp player will be at like a 2% disadvantage against a mythic raider, and there are few of those anyway. So please stop spreading bullshit.