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    Quote Originally Posted by xskarma View Post
    Some QBs have 99 lives and are seemingly on a quest to be on every team in the league.


    Speakign of QB's, Patriots didn't have any workouts with any today and it seems that they seem happy to go into Thursday with Garoppolo as the back up. Risky as fuck of course, but they seem to have set out on that course for the time being. If there's a set back with Jimmy though....
    Julian Edelman is your backup for this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Julian Edelman is your backup for this week.
    Wonder how that works for fantasy football if, say, he actually spends some time at QB?



    Pretty spot-on IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    Ya, injury sucks but that INT was classic.

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    Cutler ruined Cutler. He does not need any more excuses.
    Injuries are not excuses. He quite clearly couldn't grip the ball well last night, especially after the fumble (he actually injured the thumb in week 1 vs Houston). His play on the field is fine, he just can never stay healthy. And who knows why

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    Sean Payton is going to bat for the rookie kicker, which... well the guy has played two career games and had a kick blocked in each of them, so I'm not loving the guy.

    Gruden is also singing the praises of his QB Kirk Cousins, but if the faith he pretends to have in him were real and he was seen as a franchise QB, why doesn't he have the contract to match? This sounds like a ridiculous thing to say, but it looks like Washington wisely used some fiscal restraint it not signing him. Then again he stunk at the beginning of last year too.

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    Cutler was trying to play through ligament damage in his thumb or it is sprained depending on which source is correct he suffered in week 1. At the rate QBs are getting hurt this year, might not be any left come playoff time.

    Colts released some safety I have never heard of. Not exactly sure how they can release a DB when all of their other ones are injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    Fine? Are we talking about the same guy?
    Yes. Over his last 32 games he has 50 TDs, 31 INTs, and a 65% completion percentage. Not insane numbers but certainly passable. For reference a guy like Matt Ryan was at 49 TDs, 30 INTs, and 66% over his last 32 games (prior to this year). When you factor in 6 OCs in 8 years, and how abysmally bad the offensive line is, it's pretty freaking understandable.

    One of the main reasons Luck was so bad in the 7 games he played last year was because of how atrociously bad their O-line was. It's way too undervalued when talking about QB and RB performance. When you can't run block you end up in the 3rd and long situations, and when you can't pass block, well that's obvious. Jay Cutler would have won the Superbowl if he was Denver's QB last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grube View Post
    Cutler was trying to play through ligament damage in his thumb or it is sprained depending on which source is correct he suffered in week 1. At the rate QBs are getting hurt this year, might not be any left come playoff time.

    Colts released some safety I have never heard of. Not exactly sure how they can release a DB when all of their other ones are injured.
    It really feels like numerous teams across the league are really struggling to protect the QB these days. Wonder if D lineman are just getting to athletic for the slow offensive lineman. Maybe a rule change if they become too dominant.

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    Cutler is not terrible, he is better than a large amount of starters, not everyone can be Brees or Stafford level QBs that are basically the only reason their teams ever win games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stommpedt
    really feels like numerous teams across the league are really struggling to protect the QB these days. Wonder if D lineman are just getting to athletic for the slow offensive lineman. Maybe a rule change if they become too dominant.
    It is probably more there are just not that many good offensive lineman and high school/college coaches do not teach proper blocking, and run offenses that are vastly different than NFL offenses. There are a couple schools that consistently produce good o-lineman, but most do more harm than good at the position. QBs used to get hit and miss games all the time before, so not sure if it is even much different other than defenses can't get away with anywhere near what they used to.

    Doesn't help so many QBs just don't know how to protect themselves because they expect the defense to play touch football with them. It is a common theme among the guys that get hurt a lot that they wait until they are about to get hit to throw, which can leave hands or shoulders in vulnerable positions.

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    I don't get how when Cutler plays hurt, everybody calls him bad and stupid, but when Josh McCown does it, he's super tough and an inspiration.

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    Broncos resigned Shiloh Keo. Not exactly sure why, but there is stuff floating around that Justin Simmons is hurt somehow. John Phillips is the only healthy TE right now too because Virgil Green hurt his calf and Jeff Heuerman is somehow still hurt. Kind of expected Henry Krieger-Coble to be the one replacing Kyle Peko. Almost all the injuries being at the same positions is rough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    I don't get how when Cutler plays hurt, everybody calls him bad and stupid, but when Josh McCown does it, he's super tough and an inspiration.
    People just like to hate on Cutler because his personality became kind of awful. Playing when you know your injury will cause problems is just a bad decision no matter who does it, but competitive guys will do it every time if no one is willing to tell them no or they hide it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    I don't get how when Cutler plays hurt, everybody calls him bad and stupid, but when Josh McCown does it, he's super tough and an inspiration.
    McCown is terrible, why anyone has anything nice to say about him is baffling to me. He isn't even a good backup since he's always hurt. If you want to win 10% of your games, he's your guy.

    Cutler is mediocre at best, Stomped just compared him to Ryan, who is the definition of mediocrity.

    Bears injury woes look to be as bad as the Saints' with Trevathan and Houston out of action too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    Cutler is mediocre at best, Stomped just compared him to Ryan, who is the definition of mediocrity.
    Well, both of their only playoff wins came against banged up Seattle teams...

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    Don't think anyone would disagree Cutler is average (or mediocre, same thing). There are not that many QBs above that level, and plenty below. Right now there is like 1 QB in each division (or none) that would be above average as a passer. They all just get paid a lot because of their position even though more often than not the below average game manager QBs on good teams are the ones with Superbowl rings. It is the GMs/owners fault, not the player. If anyone got offered a salary they did not think they deserved they would not turn it down, shouldn't judge a player based on that.

    Arm strength doesn't really translate to being even average, so a guy can have one of the strongest arms and suck (Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Mallet, Mettenberger). You can have not that good of arm strength and be really good (Manning, Brees, Brady). Also a difference between having a good arm and having good arm strength too that a lot of people mix up. I don't like when arm strength is brought up for anyone either way because it is not related to anything but how far/hard they can throw. The only one recently I can even think of that suffered because of their lack of arm strength was Chad Pennington and he would have been fine playing someplace that isn't really windy or a short passes oriented scheme.

    Trevathan being hurt should be expected, still hate it for him though. Part of why Marshall was kept over him without even giving a contract offer was his injury history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    I don't know about that. Take that Pittsburgh game. I have zero confidence he does not fuck that game up with a turnover. He is just an average QB, at best. It gets tiring after ten years of hearing people talk about how strong his arm is. The guy is most likely going leave the NFL with one playoff win and 126 million dollars.
    Exactly I agree. He's definitely average. And he's worse with a bad O-line than a normal QB I would say, panics a lot under pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    I don't get how when Cutler plays hurt, everybody calls him bad and stupid, but when Josh McCown does it, he's super tough and an inspiration.
    That entire situation was fucking stupid, on both the Bears and Cutler. They knew he hurt his thumb in week 1, they knew he re-aggravated it on the fumble cause he talked to the doctors, then they proceed to send him out there and call 7 straight run plays because of this. Then on the one pass they call, he short hops the pass by about 10 feet, was so bad even Gruden said he's hurt and he shouldn't be out there. Then he goes back out there AGAIN! Like Fox, trainers, hello?!

    Just embarrassing. Fox's record without Peyton in his career is actually pretty bad, and I'm starting to think he just has no clue what to do with this team. Maybe we can finally bottom out this year and release Jay (dead money is basically gone after this year) and draft Watson or Kizer. We always seem to win games we shouldn't and get to like 6-7 wins (like last year @gB on Thanksgiving)

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    Fox is a pretty bad coach, he never would've benched Delhomme if he hadn't gotten hurt so this isn't surprising either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetali View Post
    *waits eagerly for post game presser to see how may body bags were needed after this game*
    Apparently several concession stands at the Coliseum ran out of water, NESTLE probably stole it...

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    Fox and Fisher are both basically the same results wise, but I guess Fox did win a playoff game with Tebow so he has an edge there.

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    Peterson gonna be out a couple months with that meniscus tear, have fun Sam Bradford. Kalil to IR too, bummer.

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    It's OK, as long as he can keep dropping dimes to Stefon Diggs.

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    Lions put Abdullah on the IR.

    Ronnie Hillman signed with the Vikings. Have fun Bradford if he is expected to block ever. If they only use him as an outside the tackles runner and nothing else it might be a good fit since he is good at that.

    Browns WR Corey Coleman fractured his hand in practice.
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    Still a ways out from the game, but the Packers-Lions game is going to go one of two ways. It'll either be a Green Bay routing of Detroit by 30+, Rodgers will play great and remove all the doubt about him and the team after the slow start to the season and the Lions will look to fire Caldwell and we'll be done for the year. Or, the Lions will get revenge for the hail mary game last year and win on a 50/50 call and sink the Packers. Blow out or tight win, no other way it can go as far as I'm concerned.

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    Im honestly surprised with the amount of injurerd/suspended players that seem to happen each week that teams even have enough players to man a team. XD

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