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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    Communism. Unions.
    What is happening in Venezuela has nothing to do with either whatsoever. That is an amazingly partisan, biased and utterly nonsensical assessment.

    Venezuela is not a socialist country. Or Communist. Or anything in between. Hugo Chavez had about as much in common with Karl Marx as a Woolly Mammoth has in common with an Ostrich.

    The article in the OP did point one important thing out..."Socialist inspired"... What it really was instead was a populist movement disguised itself in "Socialism".

    A bunch of mobsters, populists, and military officials took over a country and then redistributed it to themselves and then proceeded to run everything into the ground appointing their cousins and political friends and sycophants into positions of management and administration, who then in turn lined their pockets while having no idea what the fuck they were doing.

    You could do all this while you had a near endless supply of cash despite your incompetence, but those times are over.

    I'm not a socialist per say, but let's call what happened in Venezuela what it is. A stereotypical Latin American populist strongman shitshow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    A bunch of mobsters, populists, and military officials took over a country and then redistributed it to themselves and then proceeded to run everything into the ground appointing their cousins and political friends and sycophants into positions of management and administration, who then in turn lined their pockets while having no idea what the fuck they were doing.
    Exactly, Communism.

    You, sir, have fucking nailed it.

    +all the points

    Quote Originally Posted by Tradewind View Post
    It's just bad governance in general.
    Communism is a bad type of government. Mihalik put it perfectly.
    MAGA
    When all you do is WIN WIN WIN

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    Exactly, Communism.

    You, sir, have fucking nailed it.

    +all the points



    Communism is a bad type of government. Mihalik put it perfectly.
    Hmm, I guess this is how you people feel about the overuse and misuse of the words racist or bigot.
    "In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." Paradox of tolerance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    What is happening in Venezuela has nothing to do with either whatsoever. That is an amazingly partisan, biased and utterly nonsensical assessment.

    Venezuela is not a socialist country. Or Communist. Or anything in between. Hugo Chavez had about as much in common with Karl Marx as a Woolly Mammoth has in common with an Ostrich.

    The article in the OP did point one important thing out..."Socialist inspired"... What it really was instead was a populist movement disguised itself in "Socialism".

    A bunch of mobsters, populists, and military officials took over a country and then redistributed it to themselves and then proceeded to run everything into the ground appointing their cousins and political friends and sycophants into positions of management and administration, who then in turn lined their pockets while having no idea what the fuck they were doing.

    You could do all this while you had a near endless supply of cash despite your incompetence, but those times are over.

    I'm not a socialist per say, but let's call what happened in Venezuela what it is. A stereotypical Latin American populist strongman shitshow.
    Venezuela under chavez improved drastically on education, healthcare, crime. Lots of shady shit but well... your description is not entirely accurate.
    The country was a mess. Now it's suffering the results of this recent string of economic warfare going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    Communism. Unions.
    Pure communism is crap, yes. Mainly because it relies on human beings all doing their part ( " From each according to his ability").

    Unions, OTOH, are vital for protecting worker's rights from predatory capitalism.

    Yes that's right. I criticized capitalism and communism in the same post. Because extremes in economics are very, very, bad.

    Pure Communism = unrealistic

    Pure Capitalism = inhumane

    Socialism = a compromise between the individual initiative of Capitalism, and the concern for the good of the whole community in Communism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezerte View Post
    Hmm, I guess this is how you people feel about the overuse and misuse of the words racist or bigot.
    Haha, well if you weight a 1:1,000,000,000 usage ratio the same then sure!
    MAGA
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    We should not be selling our oil to other countries. Instead, store it and reduce the price of domestic oil to benefit our own citizens.

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    Another communist state on the ash heap of history. Why is anyone surprised by this? Communism fails every time it's tried.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    We should not be selling our oil to other countries. Instead, store it and reduce the price of domestic oil to benefit our own citizens.
    Fuck you. Out of work oil workers and by proxy the towns they frequent means oil needs to be back at $100 a barrel. My business would go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapadons View Post
    Fuck you. Out of work oil workers and by proxy the towns they frequent means oil needs to be back at $100 a barrel. My business would go up.
    Your business, weighed against the voting power of millions of gasoline consumers.

    I think you lose.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Berengil View Post
    Your business, weighed against the voting power of millions of gasoline consumers.

    I think you lose.
    I was mostly kidding. But there are whole towns in America filled with thousands of citizens and small businesses that depend on American oil and gas workers and their money for their livelihood

    Also, we export goods ( including oil ) for a reason. And it isn't to help the Venezuelan government. I have no issues with America exporting oil. Especially when gas prices are currently as low as they are.

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    Tropico game gone bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post

    To add insult to injury, the Venezuelan government has been forced to turn to its nemesis, the United States, for help.
    Nemisis? How dare they! We'll show them, cause we're going electric, with black jack and hookers.

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    The problem isn't communism, the problem is Isabel I dying.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    lol what?
    /10chars
    I certainly saw them, but what is your point?

    Is it that you didn't see those pamphlets and posters (from socialist and communists) praising the Boliviarian (or however it is spelled) revolution as proof of "Another world is possible" (a worse one, it is now clear), while hearing about the economic mismanagement and growing crime rates under Chavez - from the Venezuelan diaspora?
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  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavett View Post
    Tropico game gone bad...
    Lol, President of Venezuela be like "how do I load the auto save from 2 years ago?!"

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    The people voted this clown into office didnt they? I guess they deserve this.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Lol, President of Venezuela be like "how do I load the auto save from 2 years ago?!"
    Go and find it among all of those Autosaves...

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    Thats what happens when your country is based off a resource that is getting rekt the more time passes, yet has an archaic approach to socialism

    Toilet paper shortage, topkek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    We should not be selling our oil to other countries. Instead, store it and reduce the price of domestic oil to benefit our own citizens.
    nah, thats racist
    #2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    We should not be selling our oil to other countries. Instead, store it and reduce the price of domestic oil to benefit our own citizens.
    Yes comrade, we must seize the means of production for the people.

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