How can people say now that Sylvanas isnt evil ?

[Hyde]

Frankly, as a devoted Horde player I do feel an obligation to obey Sylvanas, cause she's an acting Warchief. But as a Paladin, I feel just wrong. In general, I really disliked the idea to appoint her as Warchief.

Blood Elf Paladin? The Blood Knights is the perversed version of the Holy Light religion, hence why they chained up a Naaru. You have no place to condemn because what your order did was worse.

[Magnagarde]

Its all crystal clear how. Many will not understand, but the spirits have given these people a vision.

[Ermelloth]

Blood Elf Paladin?

Actually, my IC race is mixed (Human father, High Elven mother).

[Deleted]

Actually, my IC race is mixed (Human father, High Elven mother).

Wouldn't be a Half-Elf more on Alliance-Side? After all, I'm not even sure if the Elves would allow them in Quel'thalas.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Wouldn't be a Half-Elf more on Alliance-Side? After all, I'm not even sure if the Elves would allow them in Quel'thalas.

Could have inherited the classic hatred of humans for a multitude of reasons.

[Deleted]

Could have inherited the classic hatred of humans for a multitude of reasons.

I don't say its impossible, but especially as a Paladin it sounds pretty uncommon. After all, until the end of BC Silvermoon would be the last Faction a Bastard who believes in holy Light would like to join.

[Maxilian]

I don't say its impossible, but especially as a Paladin it sounds pretty uncommon. After all, until the end of BC Silvermoon would be the last Faction a Bastard who believes in holy Light would like to join.

I don't think the way the BE got the light was common knowledge (i mean in BC)

[Fullmetal89]

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*highfive* Best comedy ever made.

[Deleted]

Blood Elf Paladin? The Blood Knights is the perversed version of the Holy Light religion, hence why they chained up a Naaru. You have no place to condemn because what your order did was worse.

It's more like the Naaru sacrificed himself willingly, so the BE could be redeemed. Of course, in their state of being with desperation, mana addiction and such things, they were not able to act differently, but the Naaru knew this. Jesus also knew what people would do to him, he still made his sacrifice in the biblical mythology. Some people just don't get it.

And then, the Sunwell was restored, and the BE could again return to being normal.

[Kallisto]

Blood Elf Paladin? The Blood Knights is the perversed version of the Holy Light religion, hence why they chained up a Naaru. You have no place to condemn because what your order did was worse.

Since the Sunwell incident Blood Knights are pretty much doing things same way most human/dwarf paladins are.

[Zulkhan]

Blood Elf Paladin?

Nah, holy cow here. Praise the sun!

[gambit998]

See EVIL no i dont think so i see her as driven and on occasion driven to the point of doing crazy ass things. Vengence is what got her to Arthas and for her to find out what hell her death would entail. She is tying to stop if not atone for her crimes that unfortuantly where not even her fault. She was doing her duty when she fell to Arthas and was forced to serve him, she started gaining freedom and began to exert freedom on others. 'The Forsaken' race was created, she now sees them more as her people now because they hav probably the same afterlife as she does in store for her.

Genn has reason to HATE sylvanus true, but to deny the most screwed over LORE character in years (Not counting Jaina) a minor victory to gain even for a moment a glimpse of salvation from the pits of hell. Gennn pulled a asshole move with what he did, even after Varians death he blames sylvanus for that aswell not knowing that she had to pull her people back or the HORDE would have fallen.

She is a very very intelligent leader and i think she will end up better off than GENN come the end of Legion.

[Deleted]

See EVIL no i dont think so i see her as driven and on occasion driven to the point of doing crazy ass things. Vengence is what got her to Arthas and for her to find out what hell her death would entail. She is tying to stop if not atone for her crimes that unfortuantly where not even her fault. She was doing her duty when she fell to Arthas and was forced to serve him, she started gaining freedom and began to exert freedom on others. 'The Forsaken' race was created, she now sees them more as her people now because they hav probably the same afterlife as she does in store for her.

Genn has reason to HATE sylvanus true, but to deny the most screwed over LORE character in years (Not counting Jaina) a minor victory to gain even for a moment a glimpse of salvation from the pits of hell. Gennn pulled a asshole move with what he did, even after Varians death he blames sylvanus for that aswell not knowing that she had to pull her people back or the HORDE would have fallen.

She is a very very intelligent leader and i think she will end up better off than GENN come the end of Legion.

Not really. What did Sylvanas after she first gained Val'kyr? She began to slaughter and raise humans. She startest a conquest against other human nations, Gilneas and Stromgarde. And she took nearly everything from Genns people.

Why should he have allowed her to enslave the Val'kyr king, pretty much giving her the power to finally whipe out humanity to turn them all into Undeads? Why should Genn say "Yeah, Sylvanas deserves immortality and after all she did to my people, her happiness is important, even more important than the safety of all humanity?

[Friendlyimmolation]

Not really. What did Sylvanas after she first gained Val'kyr? She began to slaughter and raise humans. She startest a conquest against other human nations, Gilneas and Stromgarde. And she took nearly everything from Genns people.

Gilnaes forced by Garrosh, and Stromguard hasnt been a human nation in years.

[TriHard]

Sylvanas reminds me of Arthas tbh, which is kinda ironic seeing as he caused all this. But she is on the hunt for greater power to rescue her people, and that's the same exact motives that Arthas had when he took up Frostmourne. But I can see her on a path of redemption later on in Legion, she has not commited any war crimes, that was all Garrosh's doing so technically not her.

[Aquamonkey]

Not really. What did Sylvanas after she first gained Val'kyr? She began to slaughter and raise humans. She startest a conquest against other human nations, Gilneas and Stromgarde. And she took nearly everything from Genns people.

No. The first thing she did was go to Deathknell to raise corpses from a graveyard so she'd have reinforcements for Garrosh's war.

[Mehrunes]

Gilnaes forced by Garrosh, and Stromguard hasnt been a human nation in years.

Not to mention the only person with a confirmed right to the place was a Forsaken by then. And was killed long ago on orders of a Troll so it's not like the Forsaken can be blamed for his death.

[Deleted]

No. The first thing she did was go to Deathknell to raise corpses from a graveyard so she'd have reinforcements for Garrosh's war.

And raising the slaughtered humans from Hillsbrad.

And I would really like to know if all those Horde Fanboys are simply trolling or of their moral viewpoints are really that broken. Like, you people know that trying to justify conquest and genocide lets you look..don't know...inhuman?

[Ehrenpanzer]

I know that there are TONS of threads discussing this. But with new lore, i can make my case. And, if im wrong, please correct me.
Now we know what Sylvanas has been doin in Stormheim, she made a pact with Helya [ clearly evil ] to bind/control the Val'kyr queen, if im not wrong, to HELYA control her. Then Sylvanas would have an endless supply of val'kyr and be pratically imortal. So she wants to defeat a force of good, helping a force of evil, because she is more important than everyone else? Tell me when any in the Alliance did something like that man!

Arthas....

Thanks for playing though, we have some wonderful consolation prizes for you.

[Heladys]

Arthas....

Thanks for playing though, we have some wonderful consolation prizes for you.

Arthas was never Alliance. He was Lordaeron - you know the logic Horde players trot out all the time to argue why Lordaeron shouldn't be taken back by the Alliance.