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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilian View Post
    Many of the warriors that participated in the attack did celebrate the attack on Theramore, others were horrified (IMHO that was a pretty smart plan).
    Yeah, a Hand Full of people out of the entire Horde.
    Let us not forget that everyone worked proudly and willingly for Garrosh until he acted against them. The Members of the Horde were all okay with the evil stuff Garrosh did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Ra View Post
    Yeah, a Hand Full of people out of the entire Horde.
    Let us not forget that everyone worked proudly and willingly for Garrosh until he acted against them. The Members of the Horde were all okay with the evil stuff Garrosh did.
    Stop saying a hand full of people...

    In general, we only saw the reaction of a couple of people, not the entire horde (Those that were in the attack). -Don't compare a hand full of people as the whole horde-

    And most of the Horde did not worked proudly and willingly for Garrosh until he acted against them.

    -The Blood Elves had already started having negotiations with the Alliance.

    -The Tauren and Trolls had already started talking about the possible problem with Garrosh

    -The Forsaken were trapped in their own city, "guarded" by Garrosh special group

    -The Tauren couldn't do much against Garrosh at the start (they were dealing with the Tauren's that betrayed them)

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    Amazing a thread about Jaina is derailed into the 100000000000000000000000th sylvanas post by rabid alliance fanboys.
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    In other countries like Canada the population has chosen to believe in hope, peace and tolerance. This we can see from the election of the Honourable Justin Trudeau who stood against the politics of hate and divisiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scubistacy View Post
    And I miss the old Jaina very much. She was probably a bit "boring", but I loved her. She was a ray of light in the gloomy World of Warcraft. Now, this light is gone and this is very sad.
    Yeh, well said! Rays of light don't seem to last long in Warcraft, they get turned into Dreadlords, or worse, crazy.

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    Personally, I don't see Jaina forming a massive Mage army. In truth, she probably has the support of very few mages from Dalaran anymore. They could have left with her though. Which leads me to the following idea:

    Jaina is the princess of Kul'Tiras. Come on, how cool would it be to see Kul'Tiras added in a patch? I can just see it now.

    -Kul'Tiras is added in 7.X as an end-game zone.

    -Genn arrives and frees the real Jaina from the Legion's clutches, and work together to fight the Legion and the Horde, while Sylvanas orders her forces to focus on eliminating the Naval nation as a factor once and for all. Meanwhile, the Naga have infested the neighboring island of Crestfall, and need to be taken out. All the while the Legion works its evil on the island finally.

    -New wPvP in the form of an Arathi Basin style system, capturing points that give various buffs throughout the island (IE: capturing a mine increases gains from nodes, etc)

    -New dungeon: Boralus Keep. The Jaina Proudmoore we've known has been revealed to actually be a dreadlord since the end of Warlords. The mighty dreadlord has corrupted many of Kul'Tiras's forces, and locks himself away inside the keep. Forces of the Alliance and Horde must enter the keep to stop Kul'Tiras from becoming a new base for the Legion! 6 Bosses, Mythic/Mythic+.

    all that is just what I personally would want to see though. To each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizari View Post
    Personally, I don't see Jaina forming a massive Mage army. In truth, she probably has the support of very few mages from Dalaran anymore. They could have left with her though. Which leads me to the following idea:

    Jaina is the princess of Kul'Tiras. Come on, how cool would it be to see Kul'Tiras added in a patch? I can just see it now.
    She hasn't been to Kul'tiras in like 15+ years and lost Theramore because of her trust of the horde (Kul'tiras is no fan of the orcs), in addition to assisting the horde in killing the former leader of Kul'tiras. I don't think she would have much power there and I don't know why they would follow Jaina at all. Jaina really has no power anywhere after leaving Dalaran and the only place she would appear as the raid boss you want would be as the minion of the legion or old gods.

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    Jaina is the alliance version of sylvannas

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    Jaina is the alliance version of sylvannas
    Not at all...

    This 2 character have nothing alike (excluding the quantity of threads this 2 spawn)

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    Modera>Jaina. Dat milf.

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    I like Jaina , but not the current WoW portrayal of her. She was fine in books and the way Christie Golden portrayed her, but Kosak ruined it, as he did other things. "hurr durr im corrupted raidboss, so tragic, kill me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Every Pwny View Post
    She hasn't been to Kul'tiras in like 15+ years and lost Theramore because of her trust of the horde (Kul'tiras is no fan of the orcs), in addition to assisting the horde in killing the former leader of Kul'tiras.
    She didn't lose Theramore because of her trust in the Horde. She lost Theramore because after nearly a decade of unwritten truce between her city and Orgrimmar, she decided it would be a good idea to break that truce and turn her city into the staging ground for practically every alliance military operation on the continent, and point most of those operations directly at the Horde. What the hell did she think the horde was going to do? Send her a sternly worded letter noting that they are kind of annoyed with her her supplying their enemies with weapons and supplies, and would really like it if she would stop attacking their settlements and territories, but they are totally still besties and are just going to look the other way and pretend it isn't happening?!?

    Also, the "Horde" as we know it didn't even exist when Jaina helped kill her psycho of a Father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfd View Post
    She didn't lose Theramore because of her trust in the Horde. She lost Theramore because after nearly a decade of unwritten truce between her city and Orgrimmar, she decided it would be a good idea to break that truce and turn her city into the staging ground for practically every alliance military operation on the continent, and point most of those operations directly at the Horde. What the hell did she think the horde was going to do? Send her a sternly worded letter noting that they are kind of annoyed with her her supplying their enemies with weapons and supplies, and would really like it if she would stop attacking their settlements and territories, but they are totally still besties and are just going to look the other way and pretend it isn't happening?!?

    Also, the "Horde" as we know it didn't even exist when Jaina helped kill her psycho of a Father.
    She expected the horde to see reason and stepped up against Garrosh. She had hoped Thrall would get out of his cave sooner and stepped up against the Horde that followed Garrosh into a genocidal campaign. She had hoped for reason and courage in a place where none obviously exist and where it was easier to slaughter and conquer until things gets rough. Its easier to blame Jaina or even Garrosh for that matter, but the horde has a tendency of shifting the blame and directing the blame on a single scapegoat for their actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Modera>Jaina. Dat milf.
    Modera hasn't even any personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karumayu View Post
    She expected the horde to see reason and stepped up against Garrosh. She had hoped Thrall would get out of his cave sooner and stepped up against the Horde that followed Garrosh into a genocidal campaign. She had hoped for reason and courage in a place where none obviously exist and where it was easier to slaughter and conquer until things gets rough. Its easier to blame Jaina or even Garrosh for that matter, but the horde has a tendency of shifting the blame and directing the blame on a single scapegoat for their actions.
    Considering that Jaina attacked first, when the only action Garrosh has done was killing Cairne in a Mak'gora that Cairne started over his confirmation bias, yes, it is easy to blame Jaina here. I guess Jaina can see the future and she attacked the Horde to make them see reason preemptively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Modera>Jaina. Dat milf.
    I like her, no idea why. She always tags along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibito View Post
    Amazing a thread about Jaina is derailed into the 100000000000000000000000th sylvanas post by rabid alliance fanboys.
    I wouldn-t say that it was thanks to the Alliance Fanboys, i would just say it was thanks to us... the lovely MMO-CHAMP community :P

    Note: In the end, if noone answers back, this would have not happened but here we are

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    You'd think Kalec's diplomatic nature would rub off on her, especially considering she was big on diplomacy in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karumayu View Post
    She expected the horde to see reason and stepped up against Garrosh. She had hoped Thrall would get out of his cave sooner and stepped up against the Horde that followed Garrosh into a genocidal campaign. She had hoped for reason and courage in a place where none obviously exist and where it was easier to slaughter and conquer until things gets rough. Its easier to blame Jaina or even Garrosh for that matter, but the horde has a tendency of shifting the blame and directing the blame on a single scapegoat for their actions.
    Blame Blizzard writers. I wanted to get rid of Garrosh from the start of WotLK. There was this conversation between him and Saurfang Senior, where Saurfang explains to the testosterone-filled, brainless Garrosh the importance of logistics in a war campaign and Garrosh does not get it.

    Later in Cata, I wanted to crash and burn the zeppelin where I was travelling with Garrosh to Twilight Highlands, where this moron had nothing better to do than send our air escort units to attack the Alliance, so all of us were plucked from the air by dragons.

    There have been so many reasons beside these two iconic scenes to kill Garrosh asap. But the hands of my characters were chained by the railroaded storytelling of the game. Don't you dare to state that the whole Horde stand united behind Garrosh!

    In fact, if WoW should ever have a 3rd neutral faction which is represented in game by the players, I would move to that faction with all my Horde and Alliance characters in an instant. I am so sick and tired of this forced conflict, which is only in the game to appease the pvp gamers who would be better off with other games, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Ra View Post
    Modera hasn't even any personality.
    She actually does, and its much much better than drama princess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    She actually does, and its much much better than drama princess.
    What is her personality, other than being a random Member of the Council of the Six?

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