1. #1621
    Damn the sin build took a shot in the balls today with the PvP nerf. I have been playing as outlaw since launch but as I was thinking about off leveling my sin artifact but after today's hot fix I am going to hold off on that...

  2. #1622
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsuirlife View Post
    So post another chart (not another sims pls) and then we can compare it.
    This has been posted a few times already but here.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/10#class=Rogue

    And no these are not ALL "well they had 6 buffs a lot"

    Also don't get me wrong, I wish Sin was better too. Close but not better.

  3. #1623
    Quote Originally Posted by bigsuirlife View Post
    So post another chart (not another sims pls) and then we can compare it.
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/10#class=Rogue this is top 10 heroic for every boss

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/10/#dataset=99 here the fixed link top 1%
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  4. #1624
    Quote Originally Posted by elfporn View Post
    It's okay, it's the only way. He can justify going with a lower dps spec.

    The more he links it, the more it's true, right? RIGHT?

    I just shake my head and beat them where it counts, on the actual fighs.
    A lot of people don't seem to grasp why it's bad to use that graph, especially when it's all encompassing.

    FYI, @bigsuirlife if you adjust the item level bracket, you'll see Outlaw pulls ahead in some random brackets, but it has stupidly low parses. Don't start analysing data with 179 parses against 1300. Both of them are too low. And no, a 75th percentile doesn't fix that.
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  5. #1625
    Quote Originally Posted by Minka View Post
    completely different.....

  6. #1626
    Quote Originally Posted by bigsuirlife View Post
    completely different.....
    Nope, those are what you should be looking at

  7. #1627
    Quote Originally Posted by elfporn View Post
    Nope, those are what you should be looking at
    seems that sin it's in a real bad state so
    i think different but no probs ...

  8. #1628
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    Okay can we please stop this stupid nonsencsical talj about why outlaw is better and why sims are bad and why everthing besides the rng-god-spec is bad ? Thats not really what belong into here.

    Okay back to the ASSASSINATION - Discussion then:

    I've been wondering how you open correctly now. I'm using a bleed build (2113131 - best for my gear said shadowcraft ^^), and I'm not sure how to open correctl for max burst dps with assa.
    I've tried 3 cp rupture with a 6 cp nighstalker rupture for full duration, or just the normal 6 cp rupture from the beginning (less ramp).

    What are you my fellow assa rogues are using right now?

  9. #1629
    So I'm trying to figure out what this guy did at Ilevel 846 to hit 330k DPS.

    w w w warcraft logs com/reports/VBNJQYzmLW7bvjZ6#fight=1&type=damage-done (removing dots for filter)

    Looking through the parses, did he swap to Agonizing poison, use his potion, then swap back to Exsang, which made the old war proc hit the boss with Agonizing? Am I missing something here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseenkilla View Post
    So I'm trying to figure out what this guy did at Ilevel 846 to hit 330k DPS.

    w w w warcraft logs com/reports/VBNJQYzmLW7bvjZ6#fight=1&type=damage-done (removing dots for filter)

    Looking through the parses, did he swap to Agonizing poison, use his potion, then swap back to Exsang, which made the old war proc hit the boss with Agonizing? Am I missing something here?
    I don't see him using exsang
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  11. #1631
    Quote Originally Posted by Minka View Post
    I don't see him using exsang
    Well, he used Exsanguinate 7 times. It's an exploit that allows you to maintain Agonizing Poison while spec'd for Exsanguinate. I think WCL are manually removing the logs that do this as they see them, there were some higher geared Rogues pulling 380k+ using the same exploit.

  12. #1632
    Quote Originally Posted by vorp View Post
    Well, he used Exsanguinate 7 times. It's an exploit that allows you to maintain Agonizing Poison while spec'd for Exsanguinate. I think WCL are manually removing the logs that do this as they see them, there were some higher geared Rogues pulling 380k+ using the same exploit.
    how it's possible? ago and exa are two separate traits .

  13. #1633
    Quote Originally Posted by bigsuirlife View Post
    how it's possible? ago and exa are two separate traits .
    It's not hard to figure out how to do it, but I'm not going to post how to do it either. I'm sure it will be hotfixed fairly quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vorp View Post
    It's not hard to figure out how to do it, but I'm not going to post how to do it either. I'm sure it will be hotfixed fairly quick.
    maybe istant tome use and then switch immed to agonizing ...

  15. #1635
    I put a lot of points in subtlety and I am really struggling with EN mechanics. How many points do I need in assn to be competitive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elcapone View Post
    I put a lot of points in subtlety and I am really struggling with EN mechanics. How many points do I need in assn to be competitive?
    First 13ish points are cheap and buff rupture a lot which is one of if not the highest damage spell you have.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.ta7x4ri069in

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    Quote Originally Posted by neozz1 View Post
    First 13ish points are cheap and buff rupture a lot which is one of if not the highest damage spell you have.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.ta7x4ri069in
    thx boss, will do I think I can farm it in a week

  18. #1638
    am i right that you use 5cp finisher or should it always be 6 ? outside of Exsang. bit confused about this as i havent realy played this since pre-patch. And is Hemo still the way to go ?
    Last edited by classic username; 2016-09-23 at 08:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic username View Post
    am i right that you use 5cp finisher or should it always be 6 ? outside of Exsang. bit confused about this as i havent realy played this since pre-patch. And is Hemo still the way to go ?
    Yes to both.

  20. #1640
    all sim dont go with elaborate planning?

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