7.1 Karazhan Spoiler Discussion

[Raetary]

Also, why update Magni?

Why not? Magnis current model is fucking old and looks like a crystal clusterfuck.
And we definitely didnt see him for the last time.

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[Balinus]

Is i heard it correctly, Khadgar is beeing infused with pwoer? Cuz if he gets to be the new Guardian of Tiristal, maybe we will help him battling the Avatar of Sargeras?

[Aucald]

Is i heard it correctly, Khadgar is beeing infused with pwoer? Cuz if he gets to be the new Guardian of Tiristal, maybe we will help him battling the Avatar of Sargeras?

Not that we know of so far. In his "Harbingers" video Khadgar actually refused the entreaties of the Dreadlord masquerading as Medivh - he fears his own corruption if imbued by the power of Tirisfal and the position of being a true Guardian. I doubt Khadgar would willingly take up the true mantle of the Guardian unless it is the only path to defeating the Legion - which it may come down to, or may not depending on how they want the story to go.

[Deleted]

Ah, I was hoping for a explanation regarding Med'an, and how "Khadgar" supposedly came into possession of atiesh, and proclaimed himself guardian, AND gained access to the tower when it lorewise requires a key, or someone opening the door. while Medivh gave that role, staff, key, powers to his bastard son.

[Aucald]

Ah, I was hoping for a explanation regarding Med'an, and how "Khadgar" supposedly came into possession of atiesh, and proclaimed himself guardian, AND gained access to the tower when it lorewise requires a key, or someone opening the door. while Medivh gave that role, staff, key, powers to his bastard son.

Khadgar has always had his key to Karazhan since his apprenticeship, we actually receive Medivh's own key at the end of the Black Morass dungeon back in TBC. As for why Khadgar has Atiesh I don't know - but I have a number of theories.

Personally I'm hoping that Med'an will be smoothly written out of the story of WoW entirely, although I'm aware that's not an opinion shared by all people.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

In a way Khadgar is doing what Medivh did so many years ago, uniting Azeroth's nations together to fight against the Legion. So in a metaphorical way he is the Guardian.

[Justpassing]

In a way Khadgar is doing what Medivh did so many years ago, uniting Azeroth's nations together to fight against the Legion. So in a metaphorical way he is the Guardian.

Yes but only in a metaphorical sense. The real Guardian of Tirisfal has to go under a ritual where all the bigshot mages pour their power in him and shit.

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[Deleted]

Khadgar is by no means a "guardian" like Medivh, Med'an or Aegwynn. He is self proclaimed, and there was no initiation or ritual for his title. He relies only on his "stolen" staff and the aid from others to do his bidding. He has been assassinated 3 times, he spent 20 years talking to a renegade Naaru.
He was also the catalyst that opened the tomb of Sargeras and made the portal in the sky. He also stole Dalaran from the Alliance by humiliating and taking advantage of a tortured and broken woman before exiling her.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Khadgar is by no means a "guardian" like Medivh, Med'an or Aegwynn. He is self proclaimed,and there was no initiation or ritual for his title. He relies only on his "stolen" staff and the aid from others to do his bidding. He has been assassinated 3 times, he spent 20 years talking to a renegade Naaru.
He was also the catalyst that opened the tomb of Sargeras and made the portal in the sky. He also stole Dalaran from the Alliance by humiliating and taking advantage of a tortured and broken woman before exiling her.

lol... just lol. This post is oozing with bias and a unjustified hatred for khadgar.

[Verdugo]

lol... just lol. This post is oozing with bias and a unjustified hatred for khadgar.

He obviously likes Jaina just because she has tits.

[Deleted]

Khadgar is by no means a "guardian" like Medivh, Med'an or Aegwynn. He is self proclaimed, and there was no initiation or ritual for his title. He relies only on his "stolen" staff and the aid from others to do his bidding. He has been assassinated 3 times, he spent 20 years talking to a renegade Naaru.
He was also the catalyst that opened the tomb of Sargeras and made the portal in the sky. He also stole Dalaran from the Alliance by humiliating and taking advantage of a tortured and broken woman before exiling her.

Nice troll in principle, but you need to work on your subtlety.

[Raetary]

Khadgar is by no means a "guardian" like Medivh, Med'an or Aegwynn. He is self proclaimed, and there was no initiation or ritual for his title. He relies only on his "stolen" staff and the aid from others to do his bidding. He has been assassinated 3 times, he spent 20 years talking to a renegade Naaru.
He was also the catalyst that opened the tomb of Sargeras and made the portal in the sky. He also stole Dalaran from the Alliance by humiliating and taking advantage of a tortured and broken woman before exiling her.

Are you in any way, shape or form related to m-ra?

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[Deleted]

[SNIP] He was also the catalyst that opened the tomb of Sargeras and made the portal in the sky. He also stole Dalaran from the Alliance by humiliating and taking advantage of a tortured and broken woman before exiling her.

Hilarious, thanks for the laughs!

Jaina made her bed, she's gonna sleep in it.

[elcapone]

I love medivh voice actor from warcraft 3, glad to see him back

[Zandalariprelate]

Khadgar has always had his key to Karazhan since his apprenticeship, we actually receive Medivh's own key at the end of the Black Morass dungeon back in TBC. As for why Khadgar has Atiesh I don't know - but I have a number of theories.

Personally I'm hoping that Med'an will be smoothly written out of the story of WoW entirely, although I'm aware that's not an opinion shared by all people.

He said he prefer the revan that mounting in his griffin so that is why he is using the athiesh, maybe blizzard would put something like me dan was killed in some mission agains the void lords or the legion

[UnknownShadows00]

He said he prefer the revan that mounting in his griffin so that is why he is using the athiesh, maybe blizzard would put something like me dan was killed in some mission agains the void lords or the legion

The real reason for Khadgar having acquired Atiesh: "Nothing's worse than saddle sores."

[Felixon]

I would be so pissed out if they turn the Medivh into a boss - the old Medivh,posessed by Sargeras.Heck,that would only mean,that Blizzard is trying to portray all the previous events of Warcraft (as RTS).

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Are you in any way, shape or form related to m-ra?

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Just a troll, young girl. Just a troll.

[Smallfruitbat]

Khadgar is by no means a "guardian" like Medivh, Med'an or Aegwynn. He is self proclaimed, and there was no initiation or ritual for his title. He relies only on his "stolen" staff and the aid from others to do his bidding. He has been assassinated 3 times, he spent 20 years talking to a renegade Naaru.
He was also the catalyst that opened the tomb of Sargeras and made the portal in the sky. He also stole Dalaran from the Alliance by humiliating and taking advantage of a tortured and broken woman before exiling her.

Yes, you are totally right! How very dare he -send him round to my order hall and I will keep him occupied for the remainder of the expac!

[Aucald]

Khadgar is by no means a "guardian" like Medivh, Med'an or Aegwynn. He is self proclaimed, and there was no initiation or ritual for his title. He relies only on his "stolen" staff and the aid from others to do his bidding. He has been assassinated 3 times, he spent 20 years talking to a renegade Naaru.
He was also the catalyst that opened the tomb of Sargeras and made the portal in the sky. He also stole Dalaran from the Alliance by humiliating and taking advantage of a tortured and broken woman before exiling her.

Insofar as I'm aware he's never claimed to be the Guardian, he simply acts in the capacity by virtue of no one else being able (or willing) to do so. There is also no evidence that Atiesh has been "stolen," and it's highly unlikely that the Greatstaff of the Guardian could be stolen from a Guardian even if Khadgar were so inclined. Assassination attempts aside (and it's the prerogative of evil forces to try to assassinate a given hero), A'dal isn't a "renegade Naaru" and Khadgar states he's actually learned a great deal from it - time I'd say was ultimately well-spent given the formidable abilities we've seen Khadgar present thus far.

Khadgar didn't open the Tomb of Sargeras, Gul'dan did - Khadgar was there to stop Gul'dan and nearly succeeded in doing so despite being pit against both Gul'dan and Kil'jaeden's tactical acumen. He neither "stole" Dalaran nor humiliated Jaina, the Kirin Tor democratically elected to warp to the Broken Isles and open inclusion to the Horde once more. Jaina humiliated herself by being obstinate and pig-headed, unable to see the big picture of the Legion threat because of her own personal biases and emotional static.