Bonereaver's Hook Discussion (mainly)

[Rafoel]

Checked both presumed Arthas tomb and throne of Terenas. Sadly, nothing is there.

Today my search continues though. Will keep you posted.

[Tornment]

Did you wait in the throneroom till the sound from the WC3 cinematic played?

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Did you wait in the throneroom till the sound from the WC3 cinematic played?

I waited till the Frost hidden passive procced, which takes a while. Nothing much.

If there's going to be anything related to Terenas, wait will we get chapter 4 in the Libram of the Dead. That's when it mentions Arthas killing pops.

[Darkhaus]

I waited till the Frost hidden passive procced, which takes a while. Nothing much.

If there's going to be anything related to Terenas, wait will we get chapter 4 in the Libram of the Dead. That's when it mentions Arthas killing pops.

You can read all the parts from here: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Libram_of_the_Dead no need to wait.

[Deleted]

You can read all the parts from here: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Libram_of_the_Dead no need to wait.

I meant wait in game. If it really is gated behind AK and has something to do with Terenas, it'll only activate when we could read about it in game.

Maybe someone with Chapter 4 on the beta/ptr could have a look around the throne room?

[Andromedes]

Also, what is this npc for? http://www.wowhead.com/npc=95941/arthas

Wasnt he inside frostmourne shards? during obtaining frost artifact? Or was it different npc?

[3DTyrant]

Wasnt he inside frostmourne shards? during obtaining frost artifact? Or was it different npc?

Arthas as we see him in CoS (replace his hammer with Frostmourne) was, yes.

[rarhyx]

Looked around as unholy, then frost, then killed myself and ran around as a ghost. Nothing there. AK4.

aw damnit

What about our rival from the starting zone? The one we kill during the Icecrown Glacier questing? I personally don't think that there will be anything outside of Broken Isles unless we're directed there from something that starts in Broken Isles. I also kinda think as soon as we stop looking someone is gonna find it and it will be all over everywhere.

I can't recall a rival, who do you mean?

I'd like to point you at the Retadin artifact skin, which only connects to current content in the mid-stages.

I think ret hidden is special because it's like "the oldest" skin/weapon (I hope you get what I mean) and there were rumours how to get ashbringer
while the others were either in npc hands or were just made for legion

I messaged the guy after he made that comment a few days ago and asked him who he was talking about (whether it be Teron or some of the other from first gen or some of the second gen DK's) but got no reply. I searched all over Nethergarde Keep but couldn't find any sign of the one you are speaking of. I was planning a trip to Shadowmoon Valley, but this gives me a little more of a vector.

Edit: Nothing really remarkable about Altar of Shadows

first gen was teron and other orc souls transfered to dead human bodies
second gen is arthas alone (and he didn't die to become a dk)
third gen are we who got raised by arthas or kel

[3DTyrant]

first gen was teron and other orc souls transfered to dead human bodies
second gen is arthas alone (and he didn't die to become a dk)
third gen are we who got raised by arthas or kel

Would that make Nazgrim, Thoras and Whitemane (and any other unnamed newly ressed DKs, if there are any) fourth gen, as they weren't ressed by the LK?

[rarhyx]

Would that make Nazgrim, Thoras and Whitemane (and any other unnamed newly ressed DKs, if there are any) fourth gen, as they weren't ressed by the LK?

dunno what the official way is but imo it could be either this way:
bolvar being the only 4th gen
new horsemen 5th gen becuase raised by the new LK

Or:
bolvar also being 2nd gen (because he didn't die to get Dk abilities or got his soul transefered)
new horsemen gen 3 because raised after they died

I think it's the second one because of the way how they became dks

someone should ask Lore on twitter or on the official forums

[3DTyrant]

dunno what the official way is but imo it could be either this way:
bolvar being the only 4th gen
new horsemen 5th gen becuase raised by the new LK

Or:
bolvar also being 2nd gen (because he didn't die to get Dk abilities or got his soul transefered)
new horsemen gen 3 because raised after they died

I think it's the second one because of they way how the became dks

someone should ask Lore on twitter or on the official forums

Good point, thinking on it, the latter of your options does make more sense.

[HarpuiaBlade]

Summoned Aboms until I got FesterGut, used it to kill RotFace then did the reverse of that and killed prof put with RotFace only. Nothing yet, I'm a fool for trying.

[Rafoel]

Doing more digging on wowhead... we got 2 versions of Alexandros Mograine added in Legion:

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=91078/hig...ndros-mograine
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=90958/hig...ndros-mograine

with different outfits, one is marked as humanoid ans the second as undead. Also there are also these spells:

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=180978/...raine-defeated
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=180922/...raine-defeated
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=180920/...graine-avenged

And surprise avenging mograine is connected to:

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=90951/renault-mograine

Also added in Legion.

[Andromedes]

Not only alexandros was added, the whole old 4 horsemen were added in 7.0.1 with new outfits. For example http://www.wowhead.com/npc=91275/thane-korthazz#outfit

[Lycanthro]

Bolvar, the new Lich King, is not a Death Knight. Nor was Ner'zhul. The first Death Knight was Teron Gorefiend and his comrades and they were made by putting orc souls into human bodies and given powers with their truncheons. The second kind was like Arthas, the Lich King specifically bestowed powers upon them. You may consider Arthas different since he didn't die immediately but wandered the wastes of Northrend with Frostmourne until he died but didn't stop walking. Then there's us who the Lich King raised from the dead himself with Frostmourne. Next are the Death Knights that we raise, the new Lich King didn't raise them, we did ourselves.

I can't recall a rival, who do you mean?

http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=Orbaz+Bloodbane

[Rafoel]

Taking it back to the:

Pst... go to the resting place of the first "true" unholy dk. there you'll find your first step

I know how it looks like, but the poster in his history seemed to engage in many serious conversations, regarding politics, economics, and I didn't find a trace of trolling in his posting history. This weird clue seems just... weird.

So it would be stupid to at least not check it. But there is one problem. I don't know where this resting place is. After thinking it all through - no, the tomb in Stormwind can't be of Arthas. They would never bury him in such prominent place.

But what did they do with body? In all forum posts from the last 6 years, no location was determined. Tomb of Arthas doesn't exist. But they HAD to do something with the body.

So, does anybody have any knowledge on that matter?

[Tornment]

Alexandros Mograine, Paladin, Holiest Warrior there was fallen to become a Death Knight. That could be counted as a pretty unholy DK.
So I tried to find something connected to the Mograines.
Went to Eastern Plaguelands, LHC, Naxxramas and Stratholme (both wings). Did not find a thing. Gonna check Scarlett Monastery and their base in Western Plaguelands next.

Edit: I have to mention I did only check the military wing and Kel.

Doing all of this with AK4

[Psikotik]

Have we considered that either the Frost or Unholy breadcrumbs are gated behind Champion level or ilvl ? I've tried keeping up with the thread and I don't recall seeing that suggested before.

[Deleted]

Taking it back to the:



I know how it looks like, but the poster in his history seemed to engage in many serious conversations, regarding politics, economics, and I didn't find a trace of trolling in his posting history. This weird clue seems just... weird.

So it would be stupid to at least not check it. But there is one problem. I don't know where this resting place is. After thinking it all through - no, the tomb in Stormwind can't be of Arthas. They would never bury him in such prominent place.

But what did they do with body? In all forum posts from the last 6 years, no location was determined. Tomb of Arthas doesn't exist. But they HAD to do something with the body.

So, does anybody have any knowledge on that matter?

I agree with this. Regardless of whether or not the user was legit, it makes sense to check the resting place of the first unholy DK. I wonder what he means by "true" unholy dk. Was Teron Gorefiend "true"? Or Arthas? Or the first DK Arthas Ress'd?

As an aside, I'm getting real tired of people saying "don't look outside the isles, the pally skin MUST be the ONLY one from outside the Isles!". You don't know that. You've made a huge logical leap. You may be correct, but you may not be, and we shouldn't proceed based on "maybes". Yes, I get that corrupted ashbringer is in a league of its own. No, that does NOT mean that it's the only one outside of Broken Isles. It may well turn out to be that way, but please stop taking it for granted.

Wasn't Teron Gorefiend killing in Black Temple? Anyone try looking there?

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I agree with this. Regardless of whether or not the user was legit, it makes sense to check the resting place of the first unholy DK. I wonder what he means by "true" unholy dk. Was Teron Gorefiend "true"? Or Arthas? Or the first DK Arthas Ress'd?

As an aside, I'm getting real tired of people saying "don't look outside the isles, the pally skin MUST be the ONLY one from outside the Isles!". You don't know that. You've made a huge logical leap. You may be correct, but you may not be, and we shouldn't proceed based on "maybes". Yes, I get that corrupted ashbringer is in a league of its own. No, that does NOT mean that it's the only one outside of Broken Isles. It may well turn out to be that way, but please stop taking it for granted.

Wasn't Teron Gorefiend killing in Black Temple? Anyone try looking there?

http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=...t-death-knight check this out