Well yeah most of us have died 2000+ times and returned to life. WoW with a perma-death system would set things into perspective of how tough we really are.
Well yeah most of us have died 2000+ times and returned to life. WoW with a perma-death system would set things into perspective of how tough we really are.
Don't most of the major lore victories/defeats usually get credited to someone else, and we're just the "and some adventurers" who "helped some" or whatever?
I know the end of expansion bosses almost always have someone there with us doing something or another so they can be the focus of the cutscenes.
Oficially, we are adventurers/champions, who asisted heroes or banded together to deal with some threat.
We do exist in official lore, just not as solo entities aka your character.
Still, we are being asked to prove ourselves (7.1 Odyn's trial, really, bro? Maybe we should wack your head more, no more fricking trials of any kind!), again and again, and everyone thinks we should collect their poop for them. We are not thought to be gods of any kind or meaning.
This should change, because the same crap repeats from expansion to expansion. WoD is fully understandable, and Pandaria to an extent, but still...
When and where have we killed a titan?
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no, they were not "avatars" they were the real ones and we killed them.
azeroth gets damaged if they get teared out of the planet like aman'thul did with y'shaarj, you can kill them, but not remove them, nor was pandaria in ruins ever because of the curse, until the alliance and horde found the land and garrosh threw the heart into the pools.
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I don't think that's how divinity works.
You are just a legend. Its very common in Fantasy for one character to be so vaunted that they tackle every threat and come out unscarred from it.
Its basically the basis for characters like Drizzt or even a character like James Bond outside of Fantasy.
Its just compelling narrative to be a hero.
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umm no. We havent killed any titans. Beating kings and Emperors and warchiefs..ect..ect isnt god like. They are mortal. most of those who have powers well beyond a mortal. We havent beaten alone.
old gods:
C'Thun was the only one we brought down alone, because he built all of his defenses to fight off the dragons, not us. So when it came down to it, he had little power to stop us because he was so focused on the dragons.
Yogg'saron: The Titan Keepers helped us beat him
Y'Shaarj: His power was drained into a mortal vessel, Garrosh, and we beat him because we had magical equipment empowered by a dragon aspect.
Aspects:
Malygo, Deathwing: The aspects helped us defeat them. We didnt do it alone.
Demigods:
Not hard. Grom killed Cenarius once. it doesn't take god like powers to defeat a demi god.
Elemental Lords:
Ragnaros: Cenarius, Malfurion and Hamuul helped us beat him
Al'akir: We did beat on our own.
Legion commanders: The legion individually is easy to defeat. The reason why the legion conquers worlds is because they are numerous and immortal. The only way to save the world from them is to fight them back enough, so someone/something of immense power can close their gate way to prevent them from returning.
Any demon of considerable power, Archimonde, Kil'jaeden..ect..ect..Has been defeated by the help of someone stronger. Khadgar, Kalecgos, what have you.
Except for Al'akir who, we did beat at full power as far as im aware, everyone else above mortal power we had help to defeat.
Last edited by Pandragon; 2016-09-25 at 06:13 PM.
If what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. Then I should be a god by now.
before wod garrison and the whole commander thing, the player character were nothing more than random troops who assisted the hero (thrall, varian, malfurion etc) into it's quest to slay a powerfull foe; a great example is onyxia, we have farmed (and some still farm her, damn mount) for years but in lore she was killed by varian.
So in lore all the bosses we have faced before wod were always killed by some named hero no by us; post wod the only boss with a god-like power was archimonde and i think the kill is claimed by Khadgar with the assistance of Yrael, Grom and the players.
In legion thing have been flushed down the drains in one quest you are the head of a powerful faction with many npc under your command in another you are the peon who's gonna kick few dying fishes into the water.
That is a really good point and does indeed show how much of a God the player character is.
On topic, the Player Character is simply an unknown champion, among a really big group of above-average unknown champions, that defeat world threats alongside (perhaps even a step backwards) the big Lore characters.