First presidential debate - September 26: Trump vs Hillary

[Masark]

...MSNBC just cut over.

Hey Hooked - Hillary isn't going home to bed. She's actually doing a rally live... RIGHT NOW ^_^

It's not Hillary, it's an LMD!

[KrazyK923]

Trump was the clear winner for the first half of the debate before the moderator began his one-sided attack
Asked about Trump tax returns
Pressed and pushed about the taxes/financial releases being "okay to release now" despite audit
Straight-up lied about Stop-And-Frisk being ruled unconstitutional, implied the entire time it was a racist bill (and thereby implied that Trump was racist for proposing it)
Asked Trump about supporting the Iraq War
Insisted and claimed that Trump supported the Iraq War after he already answered
Never asked Hillary about having voted for the Iraq War
Asked Trump to defend his statements about the Birther comments
Implied Trump's statements about the Obama Birther issue was racist, asked this question during the "race relations" section of the debates, and interrupted Trump more than once during his responses
Did not ask Hillary about her involvement in the birther issue
Did not ask Hillary about the Obama photo that Hillary leaked
Did not progress and ask Hillary about her "Super Predators" comment like he did numerous times with Trump
Asked Trump to defend his comments about Hillary's "appearance" - implying sexism or anti-women sentiments
Did not ask Hillary about Benghazi
Did not ask Hillary about the Emails
Did not ask Hillary anything about Bill's history of sexual harassment and her defense of his behavior
Moderator seemed to avoid topics that were strong Trump policies
Didn't mention Immigration
Didn't mention the Clinton Foundation

He softballed questions to Hillary the entire time it was a joke.

Jesus christ, Trump and the Trumpettes are so incredibly thin skinned. Especially on shit he's actually saying. Not, you know, conspiratorial bullshit that is dredged up from the saddest parts of the internet.

[Kellhound]

Are you suggesting overstock creates demand? I think you are confusing the demand to move product and the demand by the consumer.

Overstock only hurts the end producer, it helps all upstream producers.

[Felya]

What is ridiculous is you are insisting on fixing the facts to ensure your example has to work how you want it to.

No, he isn't the one relying on 'don't know what happens to the money'. He is right, what you are describing is this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overstock

We do know what happens when demand is lower than production.

[mvaliz]

[video=youtube;f0w-7y_DQLI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0w-7y_DQLI[video]

Should Gary Johnson have been allowed to debate?

Why would the man who chickened out of debating Sanders for charity want Gary Johnson in the debates?

No, I didn't watch the video. Why? Because you've proven to not be trusted as credible, that's why.

[Deleted]

Goign to watch the debate this evening, can someone give a short summary? I cba sifting through tens of pages on a laughable discussion on basic economics of supply and demand by people with no economic background nor insight.

[breadisfunny]

CNN right now. It's a rerun, the episode where Trump gets run over by his own statements.

oh when is the new one? i want to see him dominate hillary.

[Zervek]

You sound like some sort of extremist religious person. Do you know what objectively means?

You talk as if its a bad thing. Considering America was founded on judeo-christian values, I'd say religious extremism doesn't exist in the US.

Only true if you are a plutocrat. No other way to look at it...

So you don't like Trump? Well, you'd better learn to like him. At this rate, there is no way he will lose this election.

[Kellhound]

You think all the revenue gained from buying more materials for fucking brownies will then be spendt on brownies? No. What will happen is:

You spendt 100 dollars more on supplies.
That one kid got one extra dollar from his dad who you brought the supplies from so he can buy a brownie from you. You sell 1 more brownie. You are down 99 dollars in material costs.
Te dad goes and buys pizza for 99 dollars

And you proved my point, demand went up. I never said demand would increase to to offset the increased costs, just that demand has the opportunity to increase.

[Felya]

Overstock only hurts the end producer, it helps all upstream producers.

You think that overstock will maintain production demand of any sector? I am not aware of any manufacturing that would count a peek, followed by a drop off, as only hurting the "end producer".

[Deletedaccount1]

Why would the man who chickened out of debating Sanders for charity want Gary Johnson in the debates?

No, I didn't watch the video. Why? Because you've proven to not be trusted as credible, that's why.

I have? I didn't make the video and if you took 2 seconds out of your busy day to click on it you would see it is from a syndicated publication.

[mvaliz]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politi...ate/index.html

lol - nice!

That's going to bite him in the ass for sure ^_^

[Felya]

So you don't like Trump? Well, you'd better learn to like him. At this rate, there is no way he will lose this election.

Nope, I don't have to like him, even if he wins. Although, this line of thought does explain your rational.

[Deletedaccount1]

They require nominees to reach a certain percentage of polls before they'd considered for debates. I think it's at least 15%? Johnson didn't make the cut, so no, he shouldn't have.

In the video they argue the cutoff should be 5% instead of 15% since at 5%, third party candidates can get major party status in all 50 states as well as federal matching funds.

[Deleted]

You talk as if its a bad thing. Considering America was founded on judeo-christian values, I'd say religious extremism doesn't exist in the US.

So you don't like Trump? Well, you'd better learn to like him. At this rate, there is no way he will lose this election.

You are either trolling or brain washed. Either way gl with that in life

[frogger237]

Why would the man who chickened out of debating Sanders for charity want Gary Johnson in the debates?

No, I didn't watch the video. Why? Because you've proven to not be trusted as credible, that's why.

What are you talking about, he did end up debating Sanders:

[Kellhound]

The point was regarding market action. You're appealing to a greater market outside the example. There is no such ubermarket in the real world, just the markets we actually have.

The facts were fixed to make it comparable. You're trying to change those limits to something that's not comparable to the real-world markets. The global market is the school fair. There's no greater market where people can blow in from and buy up a huge overstock.

So, the $30,000 just disappears and plays no effect on demand. If you are not injecting more capitol into the system, how do you expect demand to increase when the funds to do so do not exist?

[Deleted]

And you proved my point, demand went up. I never said demand would increase to to offset the increased costs, just that demand has the opportunity to increase.

Then you have no valid point

[mvaliz]

I have? I didn't make the video and if you took 2 seconds out of your busy day to click on it you would see it is from a syndicated publication.

Let me rephrase this

I don't trust you, therefore I don't trust any jack-leg "sources" you link.

...and a google search just showed me what I already knew - you linked a lie... again.

No, that video is NOT about Donald Dump wanting Gary Johnson SPECIFICALLY to be in the debates. It was Donald Dump telling a reporter in passing he would want to open the debates for third parties.

whatevs...

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What are you talking about, he did end up debating Sanders:

HAH! never even knew they did this! thanks - going to save that for later. ^_^

[Felya]

So, the $30,000 just disappears and plays no effect on demand. If you are not injecting more capitol into the system, how do you expect demand to increase when the funds to do so do not exist?

They default on their loan, because there is no demand to justify their spending... Why would it disappear? It's what happens when you mismanage business... See how China dealt with solar panel over production...