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Except for fury warriors which were crazy high at several points as they had problems balancing rage generation, pure DPS specs were always at the top of the rankings throughout vanilla and TBC. Furthermore, GC has spoken at length about the hybrid tax, and flat-out said they targeted hybrids below pure DPS in those days.
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2016-09-24, 01:31 PM #181Titan
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2016-09-24, 04:18 PM #182Over 9000!
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Still trying to figure out why they just buffed Ass when they are already the highest DPS PvE Rogue spec and in the top 3 in general.
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2016-09-26, 11:42 AM #183Blademaster
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buffed Ass
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2016-09-26, 12:12 PM #184Field Marshal
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Haha some of that logic, your dps spec dps is lower because you could fill another role. Maybe if running 6 tanks did anything but slow you down. Most pugs won't take more tanks/healers than they need, let alone a raiding guild. By that logic Warrior/DH should be the best tanks because they can't go heals. Oh wait. Originally Posted by Screwtape
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2016-09-26, 02:25 PM #185Dreadlord
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I'm confused, are we arguing that there is or isn't a Hybrid Tax? Honestly if it's around it should be gone. The game has evolved from 31 point open talent tree to a spec dependent talent tree, in addition too adding artifact weapons, talents, and spec dependent legendaries. To me it seems that throughout the years Blizzard has wanted players to focus on one tree in a class and not be able to be the "jack of all trades." To punish classes that has the potential to fill multiple roles, while not feasibly (at least at the start) being able to, would be counter productive.
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2016-09-26, 02:30 PM #186Deleted
Every class below UH DK should be buffed a bit and all should be fine. No reason to Nerf others really.
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2016-09-26, 02:41 PM #187Bloodsail Admiral
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Yeah I'm not sure what the direction of the arguments here are. Originally Posted by Cirayne24
The fact is that Blizzard has stated about a million times that they will balance the game this week, they've attempted to do that. All we can do now is wait for the results from Mythic and other sources. I just wish they'd drop this policy of "we don't like making regular changes". I'd prefer them to re-balance every week if it helped bring everything in line.
On the topic of hybrid classes, I really don't think those bring as much utility as in days gone by and so they shouldn't be punished for it.
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2016-09-26, 05:14 PM #188Brewmaster
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A single add throws those charts into a frenzy. I'd look at them with a pinch of salt
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2016-09-26, 05:15 PM #189Deletedbuffing classes without nerfing others would result in making the content to easy. Originally Posted by xzeve
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2016-09-26, 05:20 PM #190Over 9000!
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Blizz loves buffing Ass, didn't you know? Originally Posted by Jhowzera
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2016-09-26, 05:21 PM #191Herald of the Titans
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Havoc isn't even first on that chart, so why are there such hard nerfs? Meanwhile MM gets little to nothing done to them. I get that it doesn't include trash damage, but who fucking cares about trash? I never pop my CDs outside boss fights anyway.
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2016-09-26, 05:21 PM #192Over 9000!
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Had a fun time trying WW yesterday with my ilvl 853 gear and being able to take off 20% of a UH before he killed me 3 seconds later. Originally Posted by xzeve
People are crying about DHs, but those guys are only a threat when they pop their 5m cd Meta. Arms Warriors and UH DKs are OP 100% of the time."It's not what we don't know that gets us into trouble; it's what we know for sure that just ain't so." ~ Mark Twain
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2016-09-26, 06:04 PM #193Epic!
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This thread has nothing to do with PVP. Originally Posted by Saverem
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2016-09-26, 07:48 PM #194Over 9000!
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Whoops, got this thread confused for another one I was commenting in in the PvP boards. Originally Posted by Farabee
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2016-09-26, 08:59 PM #195Brewmaster
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http://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/Raid_T19P.html
lol @ Arcane mage now...
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2016-09-26, 09:22 PM #196Bloodsail Admiral
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If you're losing 1v1 as WW, and losing THAT badly, it's 100% you. The only class that beats WW 1v1 is ret. Originally Posted by Saverem
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2016-09-27, 07:49 AM #197Stood in the Fire
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retri and arcane reborn? Originally Posted by ShiyoKozuki
mmmmm strange that now dps its doubled then before....
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2016-09-27, 07:54 AM #198Brewmaster
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Fire, Outlaw, Windwalker and Havoc, what kind of order do they place in a raid situation for overall dps over bosses? Safe to say it's Fire > Havoc/Outlaw > Windwalker?
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2016-09-27, 09:53 AM #199Deleted
Fire is not as shiny as it looks. The free autocleave is too good to be bad, but far behind anything we see from most melees. Hardly any mages in top rankings, arms, havoc, mm and shadows are doing alot better. Especially with the coming shadow buffs, fire will not be as great as people think.
I seriously hope they wont nerf fire at this point cause they will completely sideline mages in a blink.
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2016-09-27, 11:06 AM #200Brewmaster
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Havoc is still getting a general nerf so I assume it won't be as competitive as Rogues or Warriors in the upcoming Mythic race... I also thought Shadow was still receiving a nerf? Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble
Just out of curiosity.. how do Windwalkers feel currently? pretty happy with the general situation?
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