First presidential debate - September 26: Trump vs Hillary

[hrugner]

Sorry, but anyone who uses 'cuck' and isn't being ironic or facetious is an idiot.

and even then I wouldn't be so sure about them.

[alexw]

Since when being educated was considered a bad thing? Or having a postgraduate degree was considered being part of the "elite"? I thought that everyone has an imperative to be educated and the commonfolk should look to the people who dedicate their lives to a certain thing in order to obtain information about said thing...

Ever since right-wingers noticed that being more educated broadens the mind which in turn makes them more liberal (on average).

They'd be all for more education if it increased the number of conservatives and republican voters.

[Edge-]

Saw her being dragged to a van like a ragdoll. Was a pretty sight ill admit, hell i might even fap one out of sheer happiness.

Yep, she passed out with pneumonia and dehydration. Shocking.

Let me know when you decide to run for president and continue campaigning with pneumonia rather than taking some time off.

Also, you fap to barely visible videos of fully clothed elderly women fainting? I'm not one to judge, usually, but that's a pretty strange and oddly specific fetish.

[hrugner]

Which is absolutely true, and fantastic advice, if he were trying to appeal to bibliophiles. Trump is trying to appeal to the, "See Don Run. Run Don Run." crowd.

Advice for his run should come from Michael Bay. Tell people what they're seeing, then make it so over the top they thank you for the description.

[Elegiac]

Yes one issue out of many, that's what we should base the whole election on.

Isn't your entire shtick about self-interest?

That aside, of the many other issues there is one commonality; that you feel the outcome of this election doesn't matter speaks more to your insulation rather than it actually being unimpactful.

Fairly predictable of a twenty something guy.

[Breccia]

Which is absolutely true, and fantastic advice, if he were trying to appeal to bibliophiles. Trump is trying to appeal to the, "See Don Run. Run Don Run." crowd.

Dammit, he has those. He couldn't lose them by shooting someone. I know that's true because Trump said it and I didn't bother to look up the answer, so it must be true.

Trump needs more votes from other places. His performance last night is not indicative of someone who wants to expand his voter base.

[Jotaux]

That is not really what the chart says... and it does say "full-time":

http://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/wome...gs-in-2014.pdf

Women's earnings as a percentage of men's, for full-time wage and salary workers, 1979–2014
annual averages.

and another chart:
http://i.imgur.com/oxnwaKz.png

And yes, it is going up. Which is a good thing. But the gap itself is what we are talking about. Not the "why", or even if it is justifiable.

Which again does not take into account the job worked nor the hours worked aside from full time. I wholly expect someone working 10 hours a day while I work 8 in the same field as me to be making more. By misleading like this it just takes away from the actual causes of why men earn more per year than women. I did chuckle a bit the first article you linked was so terrible you abandoned it immediately. Did you even read it first?

[zenkai]

When it comes to a debate where there is -not- an objective metric for victory, yes, you do.

Tel l'm in the debates did you change your mind? Did you learn anything? We know what kind of people they are, we know where they stand, I am not voting for either one so what do I get for watching that trash. NOTHING. You're a partisan, Hillary could stand up there shouting she believe in Big Foot, hates minorities, and enjoys Adam Sandler movies and you would still vote for her. Enlighten my ass lol, you're not fooling anyone.

[Deleted]

I'm gay, so, no.

Hmm so then might i insist with Carl the cuckman? Cant go wrong with that choice.

[Breccia]

Advice for his run should come from Michael Bay. Tell people what they're seeing, then make it so over the top they thank you for the description.

Did you suggest giving Donald Trump explosives?

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and enjoys Adam Sandler movies and you would still vote for her.

DUDE. Uncalled for!

[Elegiac]

Did you learn anything?

Quite a bit, in the same way that one learns quite a bit watching the JFK versus Nixon debates despite knowing the actual outcome of both being President.

We know what kind of people they are, we know where they stand, I am not voting for either one so what do I get for watching that trash.

You get the privilege of not being an ignorant twenty something hipster, for one.

NOTHING. You're a partisan, Hillary could stand up there shouting she believe in Big Foot, hates minorities, and enjoys Adam Sandler movies and you would still vote for her. Enlighten my ass lol, you're not fooling anyone.

Hating minorities is precisely why I'm not voting for Trump, but thanks.

[Deleted]

You cant increase wages like that,

Yes you can.

wages and productivity have a proportion in which the valor of the labor has to be higher than the wage.

Doubling the wage wont make all farms go under, especially since the goal will be to force everyone to comply, making it quite possible to raise prices.

If you increase wages, employers will expect a similar increase in their productivity. So no unskilled youth. Unless you support 35$ watermelons.

Food should cost more - The US wastes 1/4 of all the food people buy - The produce rate is worse.

[Starscream101]

Obama added 15 million jobs after the unemployment burst from 2008 to 2010 ended. Admittedly it's not his entire tenure, but adding 15 million is a really big deal.

Trump wants to add 25 million by reversing the currently existing policies, which are causing jobs to increase not decrease.

And Clinton really did correctly cite independent analysis that Trump's policies could cost jobs, not create them.

If Trump wants to be taken seriously with his claim of job creation he's going to have to be a lot more specific how. His tax plan won't do it.

But we all so have to remember that a lot of the so called created jobs came at the price of full time workers who went to part time because of Obama Care what one person was doing is now a two man job with half the hours and half the pay. That guy still working but we added another guy for the other 20 hours a week so we do not have to carry health care on them.

[Yvaelle]

Dammit, he has those. He couldn't lose them by shooting someone. I know that's true because Trump said it and I didn't bother to look up the answer, so it must be true.

Trump needs more votes from other places. His performance last night is not indicative of someone who wants to expand his voter base.

You're assuming his goal is to win a sufficient voter base to win the election. That's Hillary's goal.

Trump wants to start a fire amongst the dumb, and then claim himself king of the ashes. He wants a base so hungry for what he's selling they'll rise up if he doesn't win. Going broad means weakening his appeal to his base - he doesn't want mass appeal - he wants soldiers to his cause.

[Elegiac]

But we all so have to remember that a lot of the so called created jobs came at the price of full time workers who went to part time because of Obama Care what one person was doing is now a two man job with half the hours and half the pay. That guy still working but we added another guy for the other 20 hours a week so we do not have to carry health care on them.

Employers shouldn't be involved in healthcare anyway, so...

[Dren The Black]

Yes you can.

Doubling the wage wont make all farms go under, especially since the goal will be to force everyone to comply, making it quite possible to raise prices.

Food should cost more - The US wastes 1/4 of all the food people buy - The produce rate is worse.

Pretty much this. Stop illegal immigration. Eventually companies will offer a decent wage to american citizens for doing the jobs they want to hire illegals to do or go out of business. Due to the higher wage paid to the workers the ceo's don't get the uber bonuses we've seen the past few years. income inequality gap narrows. Logical path of events. I'm not sure why the poor in the country want to vote for the people who want open borders in the usa. It just don't make sense.

[Elegiac]

Pretty much this. Stop illegal immigration.

Illegal immigration isn't responsible for wage suppression.

[Breccia]

But we all so have to remember that a lot of the so called created jobs came at the price of full time workers who went to part time because of Obama Care

No, we don't. Because that's False.

[Deleted]

And just to preempt the argument that 'minimum wage regulations drive jobs overseas' - if they weren't sending them overseas, they'd be automating.

at least then it would be good, honest, christian hard working robots

[Elegiac]

at least then it would be good, honest, christian hard working robots

RoboJesus is the only true god.