First presidential debate - September 26: Trump vs Hillary

[Dextroden]

I'm a little frightened that someone may legitimately think science and personal feelings are at the same level of rigor and reality.

They are when used interchangeably to justify pissing on a large chunk of the electorate. Or to say global warming is a joke.

Please note I never picked something that Trump was somewhat wrong about. But Connal chose for me.

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I'm a little frightened that someone may legitimately think science and personal feelings are at the same level of rigor and reality.

There is a non trivial portion of social science that is very biased, and there is a non trivial portion of it that is just bullshit.

[Dextroden]

Why don't you come back to me when you want to have a real conversation instead of whatever this garbage you are doing is.

This is what political ads are here. I have to deal with this garbage every day because this a fucking battleground state.

[bloodmoth13]

Is StormiNL an American citizen? I'm praying he doesn't have the vote.

Oh and given he is a holocaust denier I think we can safely see he is a far right deplorable - anti-semite, neo-nazi, racist, bigot, etc - some combination thereof.

how does denying the holocaust make you all of those things? also where did he say he denies the holocaust? I read one comment from him saying he thought hitler was misrepresented by history and was actually a great leader, doesnt necessarily mean he denies the holocaust, chances are, if he is a holocaust denier, then he doesnt believe hitler did all those bad things, which means he doesnt support those things, which means there is no evidence that he is anti-semetic/racist. if he isnt a holocaust denier, then he possibly is a racist/anti-semite

[Lenonis]

There is a non trivial portion of social science that is very biased, and there is a non trivial portion of it that is just bullshit.

Eh, I've got a chemistry degree so when I think science I think of the hard sciences.

[Deleted]

That is pretty much what I said as well. She is supposed to represent all people, not just the ones she likes. Regardless if what she said is true or not. (It was not). It was basically like the 47% remark (which was actually true).

walk me through this -

[Poopymonster]

lol source plz

I've heard people say he's on coke. Respectable people. Not me personally, but people talk you know? They're saying "He's on coke", is he? I don't know. But he was acting like it. I didn't say he was on coke, but that's what people are telling me, good people, smart people that I listen to. Rumors? Maybe, but we need to know the truth.

[Deleted]

Eh, I've got a chemistry degree so when I think science I think of the hard sciences.

yeah well there is a lot of garbage chemistry too. (well as long as we stretch it to include medicine)

[gusty jack]

There is a non trivial portion of social science that is very biased, and there is a non trivial portion of it that is just bullshit.

People usually consider "science" as a word to describe the hard sciences, at least in my experience. I have degrees in classics/archaeology and architecture though, so other people may have had other experiences.

[Belize]

yeah well there is a lot of garbage chemistry too. (well as long as we stretch it to include medicine)

What uh, what garbage chemistry is there?

Transmutation? I'm pretty sure that belief was abandoned over a century ago...

[Lenonis]

yeah well there is a lot of garbage chemistry too. (well as long as we stretch it to include medicine)

let's not lose sight that we're talking about science being the same level of personal feelings.

There is a giant difference between science getting things wrong or continually learning what is actually true vs feelings.

[gusty jack]

yeah well there is a lot of garbage chemistry too. (well as long as we stretch it to include medicine)

The chemistry itself isn't what's garbage in the case of pseudo-medicine though. The marketing and use of it, for sure, but chemistry itself is unbiased the same way that math is.

[Deleted]

People usually consider "science" as a word to describe the hard sciences,

yes but this is a political discussion and absent global warming, all science talked about is uniformly of the social kind.

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What uh, what garbage chemistry is there?

Transmutation? I'm pretty sure that belief was abandoned over a century ago...

Its called pharmaceutical research -

[Lenonis]

Its called pharmaceutical research -

You are really going to have to walk me through this one given I've actually done R&D for a pharma company.

[Belize]

Its called pharmaceutical research -

UH. You're going to have to elaborate on that.

[Noxx79]

how does denying the holocaust make you all of those things? also where did he say he denies the holocaust? I read one comment from him saying he thought hitler was misrepresented by history and was actually a great leader, doesnt necessarily mean he denies the holocaust, chances are, if he is a holocaust denier, then he doesnt believe hitler did all those bad things, which means he doesnt support those things, which means there is no evidence that he is anti-semetic/racist. if he isnt a holocaust denier, then he possibly is a racist/anti-semite

If he's denying the holocaust, he's pretty much calling all Jews liars.
That awfully anti-Semitic.
Beyond that though, the anti-holocaust narrative is that the zionists trumped up the systematic murder committed by the nazis to get Israel, which flows into the paranoid anti-Semitic doctrine that Jews somehow control the world.

But that's way off topic anyway.

[DeadmanWalking]

Now an advisor of Trumps is telling him to do no more debates. LOL.

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at least we dont shoot up a school or shopping mall every day.

Yes, it happens every day here. *rolls eyes*, you fall for email scams a lot don't you?

[Deleted]

You are really going to have to walk me through this one given I've actually done R&D for a pharma company.

I'm by no means suggesting all pharmaceutical research i bogus, (i'm only talking about a minority).

[alexw]

how does denying the holocaust make you all of those things? also where did he say he denies the holocaust? I read one comment from him saying he thought hitler was misrepresented by history and was actually a great leader, doesnt necessarily mean he denies the holocaust, chances are, if he is a holocaust denier, then he doesnt believe hitler did all those bad things, which means he doesnt support those things, which means there is no evidence that he is anti-semetic/racist. if he isnt a holocaust denier, then he possibly is a racist/anti-semite

They generally go together as beliefs. People who outright deny the mountains of evidence on the holocaust generally fall into the neo-nazi (or similar) group, and those people are also racist, anti-semite, etc.

And lo and behold if I look through his prior posts there is lots of racist and bigoted crap. For example -

"Can you people start waking up andsee that the problem is fucking Islam! holy fucking shit I hope people go to the streets and demand Islam to be banned"

"Just ignore Kangodo he is a leftist cuck tbh who welcomes these immigrants with his whole heart traitor scum if you tell me"

"Middle east needs dictators to keep the historic islam in control cause they are savage "

"the guy should be set free and awarded for fighting against the white genocide"

FYI you can add white supremacist to the list of deplorable things he is.

[Belize]

I'm by no means suggesting all pharmaceutical research i bogus, (i'm only talking about a minority).

You said there was a "lot of garbage chemistry" but now it's only a minority? Uh. K.