1. #1841
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelrine View Post
    It is not S2M that does it actually.
    It is the artifact trait Mass Hysteria that increases DoT's damage each second you are in void form.
    S2M gives you a crazy long voidform so your haste increases, your dot's damage increase and it all scales to insane levels.
    Err, you can only achieve those stacks with S2M, so you can just as easily say S2M is the culprit and not Mass Hysteria. Does anyone really think Mass Hysteria is too powerful outside of S2M.

  2. #1842
    I'd almost say it's meh outside of StM.

  3. #1843
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocedic View Post
    Err, you can only achieve those stacks with S2M, so you can just as easily say S2M is the culprit and not Mass Hysteria. Does anyone really think Mass Hysteria is too powerful outside of S2M.
    It's the synergy they have. Paired they are both to blame. In isolation neither has high impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    It's the synergy they have. Paired they are both to blame. In isolation neither has high impact.
    Ditch Mind Spike, put in Mass Hysteria as a talent there.

    MH's spot on artifact tree becomes 200% insanity gain while under StM.
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  5. #1845
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Ditch Mind Spike, put in Mass Hysteria as a talent there.

    MH's spot on artifact tree becomes 200% insanity gain while under StM.
    And does what if you don't have S2M? Artifact traits aren't talent-exclusive.

  6. #1846
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzo View Post
    Xavius trinket is garbage. Hardly ever procs.

    At least on single target.
    Yeah sims are showing that as well. I'm running the finalized trinket sims tonight and i'll post it tomorrow.

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    Alright bros. Heroic twisting winds, normal xavius, 1123 int 898 haste, 840 corrupted starlight or 850 moonlit prism with a socket?
    Last edited by Video Games; 2016-09-28 at 05:49 AM.

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    Per sims so far:

    Int/Haste Trinket>Corrupted Starlight>Twisting Winds>Bough of Corruption>Moonlight Prism
    Last edited by Djriff; 2016-09-28 at 06:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djriff View Post
    Per sims so far:

    Int/Haste Trinket>Corrupted Starlight>Bough of Corruption>Moonlight Prism
    Alright. Twisting winds can be really good, but the proc spirals out so if it doesn't have a huge hit box it doesn't seem to hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Alright. Twisting winds can be really good, but the proc spirals out so if it doesn't have a huge hit box it doesn't seem to hit.
    I forgot to put Twisting Winds in there, it's actually pretty terribad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djriff View Post
    I forgot to put Twisting Winds in there, it's actually pretty terribad.
    I think they'll buff most of the caster trinkets just because they all seem worse than baton.

  12. #1852
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    I think they'll buff most of the caster trinkets just because they all seem worse than baton.
    From what i'm seeing so far from ST Patchwerkk, 850 baton is literally the 6th best trinket for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djriff View Post
    From what i'm seeing so far from ST Patchwerkk, 850 baton is literally the 6th best trinket for us.
    Well I feel like such a shit needing on most of the caster trinkets.

  14. #1854
    Can you post your list of trinkets please djriff?

    They really need to buff the EN trinkets.

  15. #1855
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnrage View Post
    Can you post your list of trinkets please djriff?

    They really need to buff the EN trinkets.
    I'm still running sims atm, once they're all done i'll post them all up. Should be sometime tomorrow morning.

  16. #1856
    Are we at least a bit less miserable in 5mans after balance hotfix?

  17. #1857
    Quote Originally Posted by sinistrem View Post
    Are we at least a bit less miserable in 5mans after balance hotfix?
    No.

    The hotfix does nothing.

    They could buff mindsear by 300% and it would still be a shit filler we don't want to use.
    Mindflay is again a filler we try to use as little as possible, increasing its dmg by 20% does nothing.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  18. #1858
    Quote Originally Posted by Djriff View Post
    In terms of upgrades? Let pawn handle that for you. String is in the first post.
    I manage to use the numbers. I guess i will switch a 845 for a 835. Thanks, Djriff!

  19. #1859
    so what are the talents now from 1 to 100 and is there a point of to much mastrey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    No.

    The hotfix does nothing.

    They could buff mindsear by 300% and it would still be a shit filler we don't want to use.
    Mindflay is again a filler we try to use as little as possible, increasing its dmg by 20% does nothing.
    I don't know about you, but on 4+ targets my DPS jumped significantly when using mind sear over mind flay as filler.

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