First presidential debate - September 26: Trump vs Hillary

[May90]

Show everything that Hillary has done that turned to shit.

Betting that the answer will contain the word "Benghazi".

[Captain N]

Betting that the answer will contain the word "Benghazi".

And E-Mail

[Deleted]

But do we really know that? I mean really know? Because I've heard some people say that he's a good friend to the white powder, if you know what I mean. I'm not saying that because I don't know, but I've heard it said by many other important people who usually know this kind of stuff. Can he provide drug tests over the years showing that he's never done any drugs? If not, how do we really know?

But do we really know that Hillary isn't still suffering from some major concussion symptoms? Because I've heard some people say that she sure looks a little loopy in the head, if you know what I mean. I'm not saying that because I don't know, but I've heard it said by many other "important people" (like doctors) who usually know this kind of stuff. Can she provide medical tests over the years showing that she doesn't have ANY lingering problems from her concussion? If not, how do we really know?

Accusations are a great thing, eh?

[Breccia]

Here is a good interview on that:

Dean is trying to bait Trump into a response on the subject. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't worked yet, credit to Trump on that low bar to clear. Still, it's hilarious that the same thing Trump's camp did with Clinton's health being thrown back at him, if for no other reason, to expose that it was complete bullshit and/or double standard. Seriously, other than his "don't make a diagnosis on TV" line, the way he said "I'm not saying, but listen to these symptoms" reflects perfectly. "Something funny was going on" for example.

I'm sure these coke charges are baseless. It's just funny to watch.

[Edge-]

But do we really know that Hillary isn't still suffering from some major concussion symptoms? Because I've heard some people say that she sure looks a little loopy in the head, if you know what I mean. I'm not saying that because I don't know, but I've heard it said by many other "important people" (like doctors) who usually know this kind of stuff. Can she provide medical tests over the years showing that she doesn't have ANY lingering problems from her concussion? If not, how do we really know?

Accusations are a great thing, eh?

This is kinda the point I'm making. That if we're going to treat all the Hillary health conspiracy theories as valid (which Trump supporters largely do from what I've seen), than the conspiracy theories about Trump's health or potential cocaine use are equally valid.

At which point we cease being able to have any meaningful discussion because we get bogged down in an endless conspiracy loop of stupidity.

[Deleted]

Unless you have his drug test records taken pretty much twice a week for his entire life, you can't possibly make this claim.

Really? Welll, there is no way you can possibly claim that he has, either. To do so is nothing but complete conjecture.

BTW - not a chance in hell that you know who he is, but a incredible avant garde musician named Frank Zappa was vehemently opposed to ANY type of illicit drugs, however to hear his music may suggest otherwise - yet according to his bandmates and family this was an absolute truth. he would fire any musician in his band that was caught using drugs. Can you prove that he was a liar?

it comes down to belief - I believe Trump. I couldn't give a flying fuck if YOU don't. If you cannot PROVE that he has ever done drugs then you SURE AS FUCK cannot prove that he hasn't.

[Endus]

Really? Welll, there is no way you can possibly claim that he has, either. To do so is nothing but complete conjecture.

I'd like you to quote where I made such a claim.

The point was that you made a completely baseless claim.

[Buckeyenut88]

Really? Welll, there is no way you can possibly claim that he has, either. To do so is nothing but complete conjecture.

BTW - not a chance in hell that you know who he is, but a incredible avant garde musician named Frank Zappa was vehemently opposed to ANY type of illicit drugs, however to hear his music may suggest otherwise - yet according to his bandmates and family this was an absolute truth. he would fire any musician in his band that was caught using drugs. Can you prove that he was a liar?

it comes down to belief - I believe Trump. I couldn't give a flying fuck if YOU don't. If you cannot PROVE that he has ever done drugs then you SURE AS FUCK cannot prove that he hasn't.

Dude the proof is on camera, he has coke nose. The Republican Nominee for president has or had a coke problem.

[Deleted]

From what I've heard,...

What you "heard"? Really? Heard? Glad you base your opinion on what other people "said".

[gusty jack]

BTW - not a chance in hell that you know who he is, but a incredible avant garde musician named Frank Zappa

As if Zappa is somehow unknown or obscure in any way.

[Deleted]

I'd like you to quote where I made such a claim.

The point was that you made a completely baseless claim.

No - it is not baseless in any way - it is based on what Trump, and a lot of his family and friends, have said. That is not baseless at all.

[Sky High]

What you "heard"? Really? Heard? Glad you base your opinion on what other people "said".

don't you?

[Felya]

Really? Welll, there is no way you can possibly claim that he has, either. To do so is nothing but complete conjecture.

BTW - not a chance in hell that you know who he is, but a incredible avant garde musician named Frank Zappa was vehemently opposed to ANY type of illicit drugs, however to hear his music may suggest otherwise - yet according to his bandmates and family this was an absolute truth. he would fire any musician in his band that was caught using drugs. Can you prove that he was a liar?

it comes down to belief - I believe Trump. I couldn't give a flying fuck if YOU don't. If you cannot PROVE that he has ever done drugs then you SURE AS FUCK cannot prove that he hasn't.

Yet, with Clinton's health you can?

[Jester Joe]

What you "heard"? Really? Heard? Glad you base your opinion on what other people "said".

That's not proving it wrong with facts.

[Deleted]

Dude the prove is on camera, he has coke nose. The Republican Nominee for president has or had a coke problem.

Ya - proof is on camera that Hillary still has post concussion symptoms and Parkinsons. The Democratic Nominee for president has major health problems.

BTW - how come not ONE FUCKING THING was ever said about him having a "coke" problem before Monday's debate? Care to go back and comb all of the available video to prove you assertion?

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Yet, with Clinton's health you can?

Because clearly sniffing loudly to prevent snot from dropping from your nose is the same as falling on the ground and being escorted before being diagnosed with pneumonia.

[Edge-]

What you "heard"? Really? Heard? Glad you base your opinion on what other people "said".

Well, that's where Trump gets all his information. From "people" who "say" things that he "hears" or "reads on the internet". And then hides behind those "people" when he gets called on his bullshit.

So is only Trump allowed to do this?

[Deleted]

As if Zappa is somehow unknown or obscure in any way.

That comment wasn't directed at you now was it?

[Breccia]

This is kinda the point I'm making. That if we're going to treat all the Hillary health conspiracy theories as valid (which Trump supporters largely do from what I've seen), than the conspiracy theories about Trump's health or potential cocaine use are equally valid.

Right. And it's all fun and games, once both sides acknowledge that there's nothing to substantiate either side. I mean, we're talking about a perfectly healthy 70 year old man here who had a mild case of the sniffles. And was a little thirsty. And is a little irritable. And has bone spurs. And is borderline obese (or actually obese, if he's 6'2" not 6'3" like his doctor claims). And doesn't exercise. And eats a lot of red meat. And...has borderline high blood pressure...takes cholesterol medication...is pre-diabetic...can't remember what he said an hour ago...has shortness of breath after standing and talking for 20 minutes...um...

Nah, I'm sure he's fine. It's not like his doctor said he tested positive for anything.

(checks letter)

Oh wait, it says he tested positive for everything. That's pretty "to whom my concern"ing.

[Deleted]

Well, that's where Trump gets all his information. From "people" who "say" things that he "hears" or "reads on the internet". And then hides behind those "people" when he gets called on his bullshit.

So is only Trump allowed to do this?

WTF does that comment have to do with anything you and I were discussing? Besides which - that comment was not even directed at you, it was directed at Jester Joe and is not applicable to our conversation.

Whatever - I have a gig to go play. You folks continue on with your echo chamber.