Emerald Nightmare Mythic race

[Affiniti]

"muh culture"
"muh work"
"muh lack of roster flexibility"

LMAO is all I can say.
Blood Legion making up shit excuses, just face the fact: you got outplayed every single tier by EU guilds because you were simply worse (and had one of the worst raid leaders this game has ever seen, but that's another topic).


Seriously, you think US guilds were unique with having to changing out players? You think you had bigger roster issues than a fucking FINNISH GUILD? What a joke

Actually, I wasn't making excuses as to Blood Legion's performance. And I also agree with the vast majority of MMO-Champion about how Riggnaros raid lead (see: screaming aimlessly). It was more of a perspective piece from someone that has, ya know, actually done something within the game you're currently shitposting about.

The US as a WHOLE suffers, and that's my point. It has nothing to do with Blood Legion specifically. Look at the history behind guilds like Cuties Only, Premonition, Vodka, Midwinter, Vigil... the list goes on. All guilds did well IN THEIR PRIME, but their prime was on average less than a full expansion or two and then they poof into the nether. You'd see huge volatility in rankings from tier to tier even within a single expansion with the US guilds, but less of a fluctuation with the EU guilds and other parts of the world.

[Jdance]

I miss Cuties Only so much

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Actually, I wasn't making excuses as to Blood Legion's performance, OR falling out. And I also agree with the vast majority of MMO-Champion about how Riggnaros raid lead (see: screaming aimlessly). It was more of a perspective piece from someone that has, ya know, actually done something within the game you're currently shitposting about.

It wasn't a perspective piece, it was a bunch of bullshit excuses about culture, rosters and other rubbish.
If you think Paragon ever had better conditions to creating a succesful raiding guild than you had, then you're delusional.


But yeah absolutely! Your culture just didn't allow you to take time off to raid at a competitive level. I guess that's why Paragon beat you on Spine of Deathwing despite being banned for an entire week as well, right?

[Krille]

Actually, I wasn't making excuses as to Blood Legion's performance. And I also agree with the vast majority of MMO-Champion about how Riggnaros raid lead (see: screaming aimlessly). It was more of a perspective piece from someone that has, ya know, actually done something within the game you're currently shitposting about.

The US as a WHOLE suffers, and that's my point. It has nothing to do with Blood Legion specifically. Look at the history behind guilds like Cuties Only, Premonition, Vodka, Midwinter, Vigil... the list goes on. All guilds did well IN THEIR PRIME, but their prime was on average less than a full expansion or two and then they poof into the nether. You'd see huge volatility in rankings from tier to tier even within a single expansion with the US guilds, but less of a fluctuation with the EU guilds and other parts of the world.

Can't ignore european socialism and collectivism. America is all about the individual. Cultural differences play a huge part. As for taking time off, it's a sacrifice people make, they most likely take time from their summer vacation to be free for the raid releases.

[BreaKerNZ]

Danish Terrace 5/7

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DT is also streaming, so we'll see Cenarius for the first time now

https://www.twitch.tv/falkenraiding

[Enchanter85]

The Russian guild is now 6/7. This is going to be downed within the next few days.

[Krille]

It wasn't a perspective piece, it was a bunch of bullshit excuses about culture, rosters and other rubbish.
If you think Paragon ever had better conditions to creating a succesful raiding guild than you had, then you're delusional.


But yeah absolutely! Your culture just didn't allow you to take time off to raid at a competitive level. I guess that's why Paragon beat you on Spine of Deathwing despite being banned for an entire week as well, right?

You need to focking chill a bit mate.

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Also DT 3-healed it and burned it down in 1 phase, looks like that's the easiest way to kill the boss

[Affiniti]

It wasn't a perspective piece, it was a bunch of bullshit excuses about culture, rosters and other rubbish.
If you think Paragon ever had better conditions to creating a succesful raiding guild than you had, then you're delusional.


But yeah absolutely! Your culture just didn't allow you to take time off to raid at a competitive level. I guess that's why Paragon beat you on Spine of Deathwing despite being banned for an entire week as well, right?

You're missing the entire point, my trolly friend. Paragon maintained virtually the same roster across multiple expansions. Name me any US guild that has done that? There are obviously varying factors as to why that is a thing, but US guilds have never maintained a roster as strongly as Paragon did.

A lot of Paragon's success ties specifically into having extremely amazing theorycrafters, strategists, and the same roster playing with each other over multiple tiers and expansions. Having THAT level of familiarity, plus the raw skill of some of those players (lets face it, most of paragon players are gods walking among boys) goes a long way.

Point being, US and the NA scene generally have issues with maintaining the same roster, and recruiting equally skilled players to fill voids of players quitting and moving on with their lives. Moreso than EU ever faces. That plays a big role and factor. It isn't an excuse, BL had way more issues than just roster turnover for that to even be an excuse. Frankly, I am fine with how BL did and I don't feel the need or desire to try and point blame as to why the guild didn't do as well as it could have (cough leadership cough).

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Geographically, Russian territory covers more Europe than any other European nation. They are part of the region, just hated

They are like Turkey, they are part of europe even though most of their landmass is in asia.

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That's how EU guilds do it, so yes probably.

So because Muricans have such a sheit "work" culture with no holidays every EU raider has to be jobless? right.....

[Deleted]

You're a tool.

I guarantee that many of "these raiders" make more than you do.

God forbid these people use their paid time off or vacation days for something they enjoy.

Get lost dweeb.

Come on kiddo, put your money where your mouth is. Prove it to me, or ask your pops to do so.

I'll wait chump.

Keep on blowing hot air, typical behavior for someone who never worked a day in their life, has no clue what it takes to perform at a high level in a competitive and demanding business environment and who tries to justify the hours upon hours he spends on a video game, daily, by pretending these mystical Hardcore Progression Raiders are Fortune 500 top performers in their daytime job, taking 4 weeks off in September.

You're clueless and know jack shit about global business.

PS: I work in a Fortune 500 company, i have seen the sacrifices top performers make. There's no room for hardcore mythic progression world first raiding there.

Keep on living the dream Alice.

[Deleted]

When you take the best guild in the world and split them into two, you're left with two inferior guilds. The old method would've smoked both Serenity and the new Method imo.

[Krille]

They are like Turkey, they are part of europe even though most of their landmass is in asia.

When Russia does something bad they're asians. When they're doing something good they're europeans. Jokes aside, i think something like a ridiculous 90% of Russians live on the european side of Russia.

[Manhands]

Also DT 3-healed it and burned it down in 1 phase, looks like that's the easiest way to kill the boss

If you have Keehn, sure.

Shoutout to resto shaman homie.

[Clozer]

Also DT 3-healed it and burned it down in 1 phase, looks like that's the easiest way to kill the boss

They 4 healed it. Just like Prestige is trying it now.

[Manhands]

..snip..

Ideas on why that is? Why do US players have high turnover? More expensive cost of living? Cultural pressure to make da moolah? Something else?

[Sughs]

This is between EU countries now!

[Affiniti]

Ideas on why that is? Why do US players have high turnover? More expensive cost of living? Cultural pressure to make da moolah? Something else?

Goes back to what I was saying on page 35. A lot ties into culture, amount of vacation time and flexibility with regards to work, etc. Blood Legions roster, and even other guilds that I participated in, had a large portion of their turnover related to kids being able to balance raid progress and college now moving on to real jobs that just don't offer that kind of flexibility.