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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    If they need a job, they probably can't afford a nice suit. There's nothing wrong with a decent t-shirt tucked into some khakis. Also, and I know all interviewers do this, the way they dress is completely irrelevant to anything, at all. Except maybe how desperate they are to get a job, so maybe hire the homeless guy in tattered rags. He'd be grateful to work hard.
    Then you wear dress shirt, tie and slacks. You don't have to wear a power suit Just wear the best you have and make an attempt, if the interviewer is worth a flip they will see that you tried. 1st impressions matter and you dont get a second chance at a 1st impression.
    Me thinks Chromie has a whole lot of splaining to do!

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Common sense duh. You say hello and if they stick out their hand then shake it. If not then carry on with the interview.
    Your common sense apparently failed right away. You didn't imagine that they might expect YOU to make the gesture first? Grats, you just offended those who require handshake, but expect you to go first. Interview failed.
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    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayFrost View Post
    Total: 125 euros assuming you didnt have any decent clothes to begin with, you can buy this after working for less than a week at Mc Donalds. Totally affordable in my opinion.
    Guess you've never been poor then. 125 euros is a huge chunk of money for someone who's unemployed and spending 100% of their benefits just to get by. And your scenario there has a catch 22; can't get that job at McD without the suit. That's what people here are saying, after all.

  4. #164
    It is not only an attire issue, good people.

    These fresh generations (Y, millennials, whatever you and they call themselves) have a twisted manner of viewing themselves as personalities needing expression. Which would be absolutely fine - we all did , provided they had at least traces of useable knowledge of value and the slightest sense of belonging to a team, capability to work intensively and with clear purpose, show perseverance and endurance, sharing responsibility and so on.

    The wide majority of these people, mostly in wealthy countries, have neither a core competency map to build anything on, nor the attitude traits that would ensure their capability to develop. Without generalising, and with outstanding exceptions to this rule, to me it is clear that what Martin Ford writes in his 'The Rise of the Robots' will affect these younger generations in the most troubling manner.

    Parents bear some of the blame, education systems and invertebrate 'elites' most. Get them off your teats, people, throw them into the deepest waters and let them sink or swim. Darwinian selection transposed to social levels. Otherwise, we are not progressing humanity, we are embracing mediocrity.

    And you, monkeys, show some respect to yourselves by wearing a white shirt and a pair of clean jeans - max 5 dollars at a garage sale or thrift shop, and start from free voluntary work, learn your way the hard way. The world already deals with too much waste.

  5. #165
    I wear what's comfortable so I can be myself more easily. I've never not got the job when I was able to get comfy and be myself in the interview. Any time I've tried to straighten up and fly right I've never gotten the job.

    If I'm comfortable and in my zone I can talk my way into or out of almost anything. If I'm trying to put on a good impression I come off wooden.

  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by tollshot View Post
    Low paying jobs tend to attract the less desirable.
    This is the ultimate truth. You have the level of applicants you deserve.
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    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by treclol View Post
    Does the way they dress affect their work performance? Are they worse people because of the way they dress?
    I'd say appearance matters for those jobs. In any case, they need to show respect to the company.

  8. #168
    It can go both ways know who you are interviewing for. WE had a guy come in looking to interview for a job. We own and operate a High performance Speed shop, specialize in building engines. Had a guy show up in a dress shirt, Khaki's and a Tie. First thing I noticed and was kind of put off by it. Made you think he thought he was above this and above getting dirty. I ended up hiring the guy that showed up in Jeans and a Tee shirt.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by GrayFrost View Post
    I have to disagree here:

    jacket: 35 euros (http://www.kiabi.es/americana-de-cor...421112#C421110)
    shirt: 15 euros (http://www2.hm.com/es_es/productpage...I2oRoCqzvw_wcB)
    tie: 10 euros (http://www.kiabi.es/corbata-con-moti...473942#C473940)
    trousers: 15 euros (http://www.kiabi.es/pantalon-de-traj...421119#C421116)
    belt: 10 euros (http://www.kiabi.es/cinturon-de-vest...428371#C428370)
    shoes: 40 euros (https://www.zalando.es/pier-one-zapa...2a0dk-q11.html)

    Total: 125 euros assuming you didnt have any decent clothes to begin with, you can buy this after working for less than a week at Mc Donalds. Totally affordable in my opinion.
    Yes, in your opinion. In my country minimum wage is less than 300 euro. Tell me, how spending nearly half of monthly income is affordable for people without a job?

  10. #170
    Go to their office and see what kind of dress code they're using and go to your interview accordingly. If someone just says "I dont care I wear what I want" then they're not ready for the job anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliven View Post
    Yes, in your opinion. In my country minimum wage is less than 300 euro. Tell me, how spending nearly half of monthly income is affordable for people without a job?
    If your country's min wage is that then the suits are probably a lot cheaper aswell.

  11. #171
    I find the same thing. Here’s one that just happened recently…

    We had an ad out for a Purchasing Agent (read: someone who represents your company with suppliers), and he did literally everything wrong that I can think of. First, he showed up 10 minutes late. Then when he showed up, he parked in the owner’s packing place (it has a sign that says: Reserved for Gary xxxxxxxx), when the other end of that row was a whole section reserved for visitors. He was dressed in shorts and flip flops with a sideways baseball cap and a neck tattoo that read “Fuck Life”. The sad thing is that he was fresh out of business school with an MBA. Seriously?? Has no one in your life ever taught you how to be presentable, and not look like an ass? He may be perfectly qualified, but there was absolutely no way I could bring this person in to work for my company. Uggh!!
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  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by wowaccounttom View Post
    lol op what are you....???? 30 years old? stop being old and sync up with young people...


    thats what we wear nowadays .... suits are for douches and upper management..
    Enjoy getting past a job interview dressing like a slouch then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    Guess you've never been poor then. 125 euros is a huge chunk of money for someone who's unemployed and spending 100% of their benefits just to get by. And your scenario there has a catch 22; can't get that job at McD without the suit. That's what people here are saying, after all.
    No it's not. You are purposely being misleading. People are saying to dress appropriately for the job. You don't go for a job interview as a plumber in a suit as that would be considered weird.

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    Did you interview them because they happened to drop their name in a hat, or did you interview them based on their qualifications on their resume?

    If it's the former, I'm betting your job openings are low paying and/or part-time. In that case, it's likely these people just don't care. They know as much as you do that the job is nothing more than another mark on their resume before they move on to something better paying with more hours.

    If it's the latter, you should stop and remind yourself that YOU wanted to talk to these people because you thought they had the skills necessary to do the job. If YOU thought their resume looked good, even if their appearance didn't, it wouldn't kill you to simply tell them that instead of pretending its not a problem during the interview.
    Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.

    Just, be kind.

  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    I tend to view it as you're putting in the effort to look smart and presentable to best sell yourself to the employer, if someone can't be bothered to do that it would mark a characteristic out that feels undesirable.
    This is exactly how I feel. I do interviews from time to time if my boss gets overloaded and I will almost instantly have an idea how it's going to go just on how the person presents themselves. If you want a job, come looking like that's the case.

    It's like when I was younger and had friends applying to jobs. They would hand in an application at a bunch of places, and then complain a few weeks later when none of them called. Show some effort and call them. Works wonders.

  16. #176
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    Interesting that people say "that's what we wear nowadays".
    Every decade has some strange sort of fashion for young people. But that doesnt mean they showed up on those clothes at a job interview.

    There are still enough people that do dress proper (as in no sportswear, pyjama's or clothing with holes in them) and these are hardly ever the people that complain they can't get a job.

  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Ondray View Post
    Didnt you hear? you have to be copy pasted clone with suit, short hair, pleasant face, be confidennt, stress resistant etc..
    there is a whole spectrum of clothes acceptable at an interview betweem suits and cosplay costumes...

  18. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwank05 View Post
    It can go both ways know who you are interviewing for. WE had a guy come in looking to interview for a job. We own and operate a High performance Speed shop, specialize in building engines. Had a guy show up in a dress shirt, Khaki's and a Tie. First thing I noticed and was kind of put off by it. Made you think he thought he was above this and above getting dirty. I ended up hiring the guy that showed up in Jeans and a Tee shirt.
    Pretty much what I am saying. Dress for the job.

  19. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeJoe View Post
    just wondering. Have you ever not purchased something because the person at the counter had tattoos?
    Nope. Personally i don't really care at all. As far as i'm concerned they might as well be the spawn of Cthulhu. Other people do care though which is why dress code still bears some importance.

  20. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezhial View Post
    This is exactly how I feel. I do interviews from time to time if my boss gets overloaded and I will almost instantly have an idea how it's going to go just on how the person presents themselves. If you want a job, come looking like that's the case.

    It's like when I was younger and had friends applying to jobs. They would hand in an application at a bunch of places, and then complain a few weeks later when none of them called. Show some effort and call them. Works wonders.

    Yea I had problems getting work when coming out of college. I just put in my effort, rang around, more prep for interviews and etc. Pretty much I got what I put in.

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