Why can't people dress proper for job interviews?

[JohnBrown1917]

Because professionalism is lost upon the current teens and early 20 somethings. I blame liberals. aka Hipsters

Suits where also not common here in the '80 or the '90s, so sorry to break that bubble.


But we are just dirty liberals, even our PM is from a liberal party!
I mean, its a rigth-wing party, but still, evul liberals!

[Deleted]

lol op what are you....???? 30 years old? stop being old and sync up with young people...


thats what we wear nowadays .... suits are for douches and upper management..

If you can't bother to dress up properly, you probably won't bother to do well at the job.
Prove me wrong - and be honest: if you just wear "whatever" for the job interview, will you really go "all out" during the job, when the company has deadlines and work is piling up?

People who don't dress proper convey that they don't really care about the job. I'd be worried that you'll leave again a few months in, and all the time and money we sank into you was for nothing. I'd want commitment, someone to rely on. The fact that you care to dress up properly shows that you take this seriously.

[Jotaux]

If I'm interviewing someone I expect them to be presentable. Its not difficult to put on a decent pair of pants, a dress shirt and nice shoes. Women have a lot more options when it comes to office wear but as long as it doesn't look trashy its good enough.

[Aeriel]

I have had job interviews where I was specifically told not to dress up to attend. I am a biochemist, so often interviews (particularly the tour section) go through areas that can indirectly damage clothing. Industrial QA are especially adament as they request that you wear boots sue to OSHA considerations.

That said: the OP mentioned Front Desk and Marketing positions, where one's dress style can play a role in the job.

[willtron]

Because professionalism is lost upon the current teens and early 20 somethings. I blame liberals. aka Hipsters

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Its called "professionalism" something that you obviously can't grasp and then you pull the "archaic prejudice" card.

So somebody has a tattoo they automatically can't do their job? Look up Matt Taylor, a project scientist at ESA. Blame liberals and hipsters or whoever makes you feel better about it and fits your sweeping generalisation

If you have sleeve tattoos and wear a suit to work, what's the problem? The problem is dressing appropriately for the job, professionalism goes further than how you look.

[Witchblade77]

Odd position. People who are better at their jobs and better paid earn themselves much more leeway in what they can get away with wearing. Low paid jobs on the other hand, are much stricter on dress codes and expectations.

depends on a job. lawyers, doctors, etc have pretty specific dress codes. basically the rule of thumb is - the more likely you are to interact with clients - the stricter the dress code becomes, regardless of your actual salary. someone who works behind the scenes and doesn't interact with clients? has a lot more leeway.

personaly, I tend to go with neutral when interviewing. not necessarily a suit, but no jeans either. usually either some sort of a button down, or in case of colder seasons, neutral turtleneck and some sort of neutral bottoms - medium length solid color skirt, or basic pants. neutral barely there makeup. this might seem boring, but it allows me to let my experience and personality shine over my clothing choices. once you have scheduled the interview, you are going to get seen. I'd rather create a "reserve a judgement until they talk to me" first impression one way or the other. been working for me so far.

[Azadina]

Wow, you're really making this not having a suit thing out to be a daunting problem.

Meanwhile another applicant has solved it. I think I'll hire that one. I need someone who can solve problems, rather than plumping them up into impenetrable barriers to success.

You keep missing the point, like all those who say buying a suit is no big deal. You can't afford to buy a suit, if you are unemployed, seeking for jobs (this costs btw) and have barely enough after bills to have some food on the table. Not every unemployed person deals drugs for money you know.

[Kul Tiras]

Do you really think dressing up for interview is once in a lifetime "sacrifice"? What about the next 10 years working hard just to pay your bills, and making your boss rich?

Jesus fucking christ are you part of the "TL: DR" generation? Was the dripping sarcasm that hard to catch?

[JohnBrown1917]

Wow, you're really making this not having a suit thing out to be a daunting problem.

Meanwhile another applicant has solved it. I think I'll hire that one. I need someone who can solve problems, rather than plumping them up into impenetrable barriers to success.

Because its easy to solve money problems if you have no job.
But funny how dressing in a suit would be seen as overdressing for a lot of jobs here, its one of the more entertaining things compared to the US.

[Jessicka]

Because professionalism is lost upon the current teens and early 20 somethings. I blame liberals. aka Hipsters

Its called "professionalism" something that you obviously can't grasp and then you pull the "archaic prejudice" card. If yo udress for business people can take you seriously- if you dress like you are going to a concert for a night of getting wasted...you leave doubts in people's minds. I know- it is a hard concept to grasp....

Not really, it applies to low grade sales positions, hotels, banks and mid management. That's basically it. Most people only wear suits for interviews, court, weddings and funerals.

So glad I work in a big liberal University with rainbow flags everywhere.

[GrayFrost]

Do you want them to buy it from the money from summer job when they are 16, and then try to apply for jobs mid school? Tell the recruiters it was your idea to buy a suit during school, and just hold the job for them a few years?

I'm not quite sure what's your great idea. Some part time job during school is barely going to pay your own living costs, and you want people buying suits instead of eating?

Again, I dont want them to buy it at 16. And you dont get a summer job / part-time job to eat, you get it to have some cash to spend when you are a teen. Im assuming that if you are underage or still in university you are being supported by your parents, since you dont have a proper job yet, but you can always work to get enough for whatever you may want to do that your parents wont pay for / cant afford (traveling abroad, buying a new phone etc).

[Zarc]

Welcome to 2016 where people are supposed to be able to express themselves and their identity any way they want without other people being douche-bags about it. You're asking the wrong question, really. The question is not why they can't, it's why they won't. Because they can. They just choose not to. Because superficial stuff isn't supposed to matter anymore. I'm working as a web developer and people dress all kinds of ways around the office. But as long as you get the requirements of the product we're building, write stellar code in a good pace and are a nice person there's no problem. Get with the times, dude.

[Deleted]

Jesus fucking christ are you part of the "TL: DR" generation? Was the dripping sarcasm that hard to catch?

Actually your post didn't have any sarcasm in it at all.
It looks more like you pulled a 180° because someone criticized your view.

Show some backbone.

[unfilteredJW]

Oh look... a thread about how terrible the young people are these days

It's less about that and more about fluffing the OPs ego.

[Katchii]

I have no problem with being clean, obviously basic hygiene is important, but that's not what suit culture is about.

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it is a problem that it's called "professionalism"... It's exactly the problem.

Suit culture in most places is largely antiquated. By "look clean" I mean wear clean, not ripped, not stained, no skulls or otherwise "questionable" designs, etc.... A Plain T-Shirt with clean, un-ripped jeans and a belt with clean shoes is enough to have your aesthetic (the way you look) to not really affect the interview... in many places.

I'm not going to pretend that "suit culture" doesn't exist anymore, but the places where you need to wear a suit and therefore where a suit would be required for the interview would be pretty obvious I'd think.

All anyone is asking/ expecting for an interview is to be prepared for the interview, call the recruiter or look up information online for what "acceptable" attire is. If you can't or won't do that, and you show up looking like you're going to an 8 AM class in college after waking up at 7:55 AM... Why should the employer take you seriously as a candidate when other candidates are available?

[GennGreymane]

It's less about that and more about fluffing the OPs ego.

Well yeah I assumed that was obvious

[Tehshocka]

I work in telco and wore a suit to my current job interview and walked away with a 75k USD job offer. The only thing I needed to do at the time was walk across the stage from college a month later.

Pretty sure the folks who are giving the OP grief about this are folks who have no clue how the true world operates. Sure one of you may get lucky and find that one start up where you make decent coin and can dress like an antelope, but you my friend are an outlier and not the norm.

[Tiev]

Funny how people are discussing suits in this thread when all the OP wanted as for people not to go to interviews like they went there straight out of prison or just woke up.

[Witchblade77]

You keep missing the point, like all those who say buying a suit is no big deal. You can't afford to buy a suit, if you are unemployed, seeking for jobs (this costs btw) and have barely enough after bills to have some food on the table. Not every unemployed person deals drugs for money you know.

https://www.dressforsuccess.org/
https://careergear.org/

also - you don't actualy need to buy a suit. you can buy coordinating jacket and pants, with a basic shirt, at salvation army and other thriftshops (and it will look close enough to a suit to pass). still requires some monetary investment, but... with above links, you may not need to make it until you actualy get the job and thrifshops will tide you over, in case your job requires you to keep wearing a suit.

not every interview requires this, but.. in case of certain professions - it helps a LOT. so...

[JohnBrown1917]

Pretty sure the folks who are giving the OP grief about this are folks who have no clue how the true world operates. Sure one of you may get lucky and find that one start up where you make decent coin and can dress like an antelope, but you my friend are an outlier and not the norm.

Depends on the country, and whether it has a suit culture.