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  1. #101
    I'm enjoying being rewarded for whatever i feel like doing, and being able to do just about anything I want and feel like i'm doing the right thing to progress...only thing i feel like i need to do every day at the moment is obtain all of my nightfallen rep each day, but that doesnt take very long.

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    You aren't expected to eat EVERYTHING when eating at a buffet restaurant.

    Legion is exactly the same. You have a buffet of activity when you log in. Choose what you like/can do, enjoy them. And try something new next time.

    Really simple as that.
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  3. #103
    My inner Zen tells me that I don't need to do every WQ if I don't want to. I have zero problem farming WQs but when I'm ready to level an alt I just stop and go level. You must learn to accept that you do not have control over everything and just...let...go...

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  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by infinitemeridian View Post
    Honestly, the expansion is starting to wear a little thin for me and I think it's a factor of a couple of things:

    1) World quests feel like fluff. They're not fun. Yes, they're something to do, but I wouldn't call them fun. They're a step up from mindless dailies, especially WoDs, but a step down from the story-based progressions in MoP.

    2) The world feels small. Yes, the zones are nice though they've gotten a bit old for me, but their should have been more of them.

    3) Professions are ridiculous now. The gear is not worth the time and effort you need to put into acquiring it. The potion/flasks prices are also ridiculous now and the spawn rates/rng factor of recipes makes it even worse.

    I mean, as a whole, the expansion is still great and a far cry from WoD, but something just feels off.
    Yep i feel the same. I gave up on LW, was not worth the time or effort. No one is buying the gear any way since WQmade them useless. even obliterium is not selling, so that was a big waste of time. I really have no desire to level my alts, because I will have to go through the same long grind for class hall and Ap. WOd was very much Raid or die. Now it seem slike Legion has doubled down on that in some way, but made it so you dont want to play the alts.

    The zones, while nice feel cramped and confined, and very small. I dont even see the point of having flying this expansion because you can just taxi around or use a ground mount with out too much hassle. I was really having a blast in legion at first. Now i am getting really really bored. World of RNGcraft
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    Still way too casual friendly. Typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaelorian View Post
    Strangely enough because I don't raid with a guild anymore, I see so many things that I can just do now instead of rushing to get raidready.... I just enjoy myself with the World Quests and my class quests. Still need to finish Highmountain. Currently did not even do ALL the dungeons on NORMAL mode.

    My old self would be disgusted by the lack of progerss I have now, but I am really content with how I am not NEEDING to log in if it doesn't matter.
    The pressures of raiding often turn what is supposed to be fun into a part-time job and people react to it like that. I can't even start to tell you the number of times I've seen people complain about the game who also call it work. Jumping off the gear treadmill and not worrying overly much about raiding can really refresh a perspective on the game. I'm not criticizing anyone here, we all like different stuff. I couldn't make a real raid team if I wanted to due to my real life commitments so I play three days a week and right now that seems right and is fun. And unlike Warlords, I really do have a pretty wide variety of things to select from when I settle down to play. Best of both worlds really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatisha View Post
    Still way too casual friendly. Typical.
    I'm not bitching. In a half hour I can bang out whatever is the daily quest objective,. And on my phone manage the class hall crap.

    At that point I can grab a few buddies and hit mythic dungeons, less than an hour a day playtime over a week.

    If I want to return to hardcore raiding, on then it's push keystones and go raid for 4-6 hrs a day.


    But I'm casual nowadays. If I want to join our alt raid great,. It'll be cleared in an hour. But meh at this point.

    I might go fish or quick heal a daily random. 20 minutes.


    I'm pleased with things. I can dink as little time I want or a massive amount and still stay current.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWindWalker View Post
    I barely have enough time to get bored playing it in between work and sleep. The only thing that's starting to "burn me out" is the "Mythic-only" tags on quests that I simply do not have time for right now and can only hope to line up a day off at the same time as one of my guildies who happens to run them.

    Leads to looking at your ever-inflating quest log and all special missions and saying "Well, guess I'm not doing that one."
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  9. #109
    This is how I look at it; when efficiency starts becoming a concern, that's the sign it's time to go play a new game.|

    If I ever feel like I'm doing work, I stop playing.

  10. #110
    I just play the game. It's pretty fun.
    Furthermore, I consider that China must be destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dryla View Post
    Lucky you, you are only gonna do them with one char, but sadly that is not gonna be my case, it is gonna take more than one hour per day.
    And you CHOOSE TO DO THAT. Don't want to do it? Too much of a burden? DONT FUCKING DO IT. But don't freely choose to do something then bitch about it. that's just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhorrg View Post
    This is how I look at it; when efficiency starts becoming a concern, that's the sign it's time to go play a new game.|

    If I ever feel like I'm doing work, I stop playing.
    Bingo.,,,,

  12. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curnivore View Post
    Almost-neverending world quests

    Practically-neverending 5mans

    Neverending sources of warforged gear chances up to mythic ilevel and chances for legendary items each.


    I personally started not doing world quests that much. It started with not caring about rep, then it moved to not doing gold and resources missions, and now I moved to not caring about the AP quests either, the lower ones at least. There is simply too much going on to find it sane to grind all those sources of gains.
    All content in any game is a timesink. You just gotta enjoy your particular timesink or quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curnivore View Post
    Almost-neverending world quests

    Practically-neverending 5mans

    Neverending sources of warforged gear chances up to mythic ilevel and chances for legendary items each.


    I personally started not doing world quests that much. It started with not caring about rep, then it moved to not doing gold and resources missions, and now I moved to not caring about the AP quests either, the lower ones at least. There is simply too much going on to find it sane to grind all those sources of gains.
    It's called being lazy I think. You don't HAVE to do everything every single day. If you aren't a mythic raider then take your time. Is your Artifact knowledge up to snuff? Mine is +200% and tomorrow it will be lvl6 which is probably something like +260%. Right now I get 1,200+ AP from some quests with the smallest ones being 570-710 and it takes just a couple of minutes. Do I do them all? Nope. Resources are for your order hall, seals, and followers. AP quests are to get your wpn even stronger so obviously gear isn't something you care about. Do your 4 emissary quests. Ignore the WQ's with gear that have terrible stats for you. Infact just do mythic 5 mans for nice trinkets and gear. You don't HAVE to do mythic+ if you don't want to and you certainly don't have to do it all the time. If you aren't raiding mythic..or raiding at all...then you've got nothing to worry about. You don't even have to log in everyday for your emissary quests because you'll still have that emissary quest the next day and another one on top of that.

    It's so funny to see people for YEARS on these forums complaining about nothing to do and now for atleast the next 2 years I now have to deal with people bitching and crying about TOO much to do. Their is just no pleasing you people.

    Welcome to the world of MMO's. You got to used to WoD. NOTHING to do there at all.

  14. #114
    Yeah just do whatever you feel like doing on any given day. I haven't done any AP WQs for example, just the gear ones and I'm not dragging down my raid team, we do fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dryla View Post
    Lucky you, you are only gonna do them with one char, but sadly that is not gonna be my case, it is gonna take more than one hour per day.
    Time for you to move on, bud. If a game has become nothing more then a burden...you find a new game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embriel View Post
    Yeah just do whatever you feel like doing on any given day. I haven't done any AP WQs for example, just the gear ones and I'm not dragging down my raid team, we do fine.
    If you are falling behind on your artifact you are indeed dragging down your raid. If you are just doing normals or barely capable of doing heroics then it won't be as big of a deal but if you tried to step into mythics...well...no raid leader worth their weight in salt would take you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curnivore View Post
    It's mathematically impossible to do it all. The 5mans are in practice neverending on all levels since you can always find new stones. The world quests even are almost neverending since they pop up en masse every few hours. Hell you can even run random heroic for a dramatic increase in various gains.

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    I would suggest to take a break from the forum. It was a question to people. It is not a random complain.
    No, it's a complaint. You don't NEED to do it all. Blizzard has even said so. If you find that you can't stop running mythic+++ despite the fact that you hate doing it...then you have an addiction and you need help or just need to move on for your own health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Nothing entirely new. There was too much to do in TBC. Too much to do in WotLK. Cataclysm was our break from too much to do. WoD was .... Legion has too much to do.

    Even Vanilla had too many quests. IIC 5000'ish between factions? As we see in polls, versions / XPAC's with the most to do, score least with fans... /sigh.

    The new age of WoW gaming involves more repeatable stuff than ever, less unique, as a consequence, more repetition, less adventure. It's interesting to see, boring to watch others play :P
    Did we play the same game? Cause...none of what you said was true.

  16. #116
    I just wish Mythic had an LFD. I'm tired of applying to mythic groups with ilvl 845 but still being denied over and over. I've got the achieves I can clearly do mythic and have done it repeatedly. But having to mind numbingly apply over and over just to be denied because god knows why is so tiresome.
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  17. #117
    I'm just doing whatever I feel doing and pursue the things that interest me the most. If you're doing it different, you're doing it wrong.

  18. #118
    The big issue for me is this game doesn't feel rewarding anymore. At the start of the xpac, people were making good gold from professions and it felt rewarding. I loved going out and hunting for AP because it felt rewarding seeing me get closer to increasing my power. Gaining EXP and leveling felt rewarding.

    Now, upgrades on artifacts are absurd (even with the +research). I could do every world quest that rewarded AP for a week and barely put a dent in my upgrade. Professions are a joke. Considering how annoying they are to level, I thought there would still be some usefulness to them, but there really isn't. While I agree in WoD, sending your followers out to do everything made the world feel small and boring, switching to the polar opposite is tiresome. I'd rather be able to send my followers on certain world quests they are capable of doing while others will require me to leave my class hall and handle them personally.

    I think blizz has underestimated how much people love playing their alts as well. There are many times I get bored grinding on the same toon and the idea of playing an alt excites me until I realize how much of a grind it will be. Its also annoying how linear the questing is. One thing I liked about SWTOR was that quests weren't completely linear and the choices you made would alter the direction you went. I guess you could call that dynamic storytelling.

    Legion is still a huge step up from WoD, but it isn't without its problems.
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  19. #119
    It's fine because it's not required. I barely do world quests these days.

    My issue with legion is mainly on artifact knowledge and how it gates alts and makes alts a nightmare. AK should have been account wide, why the hell do I need to wait 1-2 months before playing my alt feels OK? Getting 50-150 AP after hitting 110 on an alt is not OK, and the catch up is not fast enough. We still need to grind the actual AP, rep, dungeons, raids, honor level, etc... at the very least AK should be something that is consistent on all your characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deix-EU View Post
    It is never done. Nothing is "done" in this expension and that's a good move for blizz. You don't have to do everything, you don't need to but you can spend endless time. Perfect balance for everybody. Anyway, if you would want to compete, you would have time to do all of those things so who care.
    "after it's done at least 34 talents"...
    Never told it's done...like it's over...
    I told when i'll have 34 talents on , i'll grind the bonus% talent slower.
    I didn't tell though that after a point , i'll probably ditch PvE and focus to PvP only...
    So i won't really be in need to get that % talent ASAP...i'll get it eventually.
    That means for the thing i compete, i'll be full extra as the arti talents go...

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