How do you prove voter fraud?
Investigators may probe Cascade Mall suspect's citizenship status, voting record.
http://www.king5.com/news/local/inve...cord/327490798
"The Cascade Mall shooting suspect, Arcan Cetin, may face an additional investigation related to his voting record and citizenship status.
Federal sources confirm to KING 5 that Cetin was not a U.S. citizen, meaning legally he cannot vote. However, state records show Cetin registered to vote in 2014 and participated in three election cycles, including the May presidential primary."
They only found out years after the fact due to the shooting..
Having been poor and lived around poor people and having statistics on my side. Yes. Have you ever driven in a poor part of town? It's full of liqueur stores and pawn shops. And I like someone explain to me how you can function in today's society without ID. Hell one of the easiest ways to get registered is going to the place where you get photo ID....
Maybe next time set your goalposts in the right place at the start.
The reason why states that have voter ID laws on the books and no require fees for the IDs is because it's a poll tax otherwise. Which is my point. But conservatives often argue that there should still be a fee for the IDs regardless.
Because they are trying to suppress the vote. Which was my original point.
I believe certified copies are required rather than simple photocopies, and those prices vary from state to state. And that's assuming you have your birth certificate to begin with, if you do not have it because your parents lost it you need to pay to get a new copy of it which is also considered a poll tax.
Because they're the ones who continue to pretend it's some nationwide epidemic to hide the fact that they're trying to suppress minority and poor voters who traditionally vote Democrat.
There are two possibilities. Either they think this is actually a solution, in which case they're basically idiots (voter ID won't prevent the overwhelming majority of actual voter fraud), or they're trying to suppress the vote, in which case they're malicious.
Stupid or malicious, take your pick.
I definitely need to be more specific when dealing with your ilk....let me help you...I couldn't find any State that requires a fee for these IDs....where they're required in order to vote. I thought the context was obvious...apparently this was not the case for you....my apologies.
We all want to stop voter fraud. But we have to start by looking at where the fraud actually is, and the vast majority of the fraud wouldn't be fixed with voter ID. I personally am not interested in a solution that 1) doesn't actually solve anything and 2) 'coincidentally' disenfranchises people.