So, do you need 425+ points in the Withered Army Training for the toys?

[Luciferstwin]

I've still amazed people can even get close to 400... My record is 260ish..

Most Ive gotten was about 800 with a full clear

[Jotaux]

Just go for all the buffs and it will help you out more in the long run.

[Deleted]

Anyone know if healers are able to heal withered? Was thinking of having my third toon be a healer.

So, you can heal them, but the will always drop back to the health they once had. Working as intended as far as I know, sadly. Better play with your tank specc, it is all about CC: Stun, interrupt, mezzing, etc.

[Tharkkun]

No once you have all the upgrades never use more that 900 mana. Its a complete waste if you use more. I finished with over 30 withered and it was time to just leave because i had gotten all the chests and killed all the bosses. Once you get those upgrades its hella easy I killed Dro in like 15 seconds and didnt lose any army.

At that point though you don't need to mana for anything else. Burning the mana allows me not to constantly see "You can't loot anymore of these" for 3 days. Plus starting with 15-20 just makes the run faster.

[Queen of Hamsters]

So, you can heal them, but the will always drop back to the health they once had. Working as intended as far as I know, sadly. Better play with your tank specc, it is all about CC: Stun, interrupt, mezzing, etc.

Odd question, but what chestpiece is that showing on your avatar?

[Splenda]

Odd question, but what chestpiece is that showing on your avatar?

http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=...-armor-recolor

[Queen of Hamsters]

http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=...-armor-recolor

Thanks! Never seen it before, looks awesome.

[xStevooo]

It's the easiest thing ever haha, done a full clear on my first run (everything except the room that requires 2 withered beserker)

On my second run got all the items i needed and around 700 score (finished with about 50 withered)

I just let my withered stay on mayhem through the whole thing, nothing is a threat. Done it today and no longer spawning any chests, got all the items i needed on my second run - assume the chests don't spawn once you have the items?

[Deleted]

Odd question, but what chestpiece is that showing on your avatar?

It is the Leywalker Cloth Set, you get that (and many recolors) with Questing. I really like it, especially without shoulders.

[pucca]

20+ minutes clearing it then running back to take the chests.

you don't have to run back, you either use the teleporter and the end of the scenario or you can just run away from your withered (use the extrabutton before running away if you're too slow to outrun them)

[Yamuri]

650, I cleared it all except the first room, I got up to 40 withered following me, cleared it then went back and I didn't have the second berserker to open it. I should have opened it at the beginning and skipped it till the end.

[Paulosio]

I've still amazed people can even get close to 400... My record is 260ish..

Dont wait till you lose withered. Just open some chests while you can and you get permanent buffsand improved withered for your next try.Makes it really easy.

[muto]

As a Destruction Warlock and after getting all the upgrades you can go in with 8 Whitered and clear it with 30+ whitered left. Make sure you use Shadowfury and Shadowburn. You can just walk in and Shadowburn small adds, burst the big ones and use stun when needed end score should be 700+ Score if you clear everything.

Affliction is better than Destro because of Soulflame.

[AmberBelle]

I forgot about those buffs til I got on my rogue to do it. It was so deceptive. My BM hunter full clears it every chance. Still no fox mount thing :/ That's all I want anyway.

[goblingirl]

Dont wait till you lose withered. Just open some chests while you can and you get permanent buffsand improved withered for your next try.Makes it really easy.

This. Your first few runs in there should not be about getting high score, especially if you are not one of the EZmode tank classes. You need to go open those chests - make it your mission to open a 10 withered chest each time for your first 3-4 runs. Get the buff that stops them from running away. That helps a lot with the annoyance factor. Get the health and attack and berserkers etc. Over on Wowhead quest comments for the scenario, people have posted maps listing the locations of each chest so you can focus on getting to one of them each time.

After that, with your army all buffed up, killing the named (especially Dro) and elites gets a crapton easier, even if you are a squishy class.

Be sure you take 20 in each run. Get HandyNotes and go collect all the upgrades so you can have 2000 ancient mana. Go farm the mana in Suramar City, or if you are an herbalist, it will be coming out your ears anyway as you often get several mana off each single starlight rose.

ETA: Be sure to feed the 3 nightfallen before you go in, for their buffs. Thalryssa's in particular is helpful. My first Dro kill I was affected by the bug, he spawned in the wrong place while I was already fighting a huge pack of crap. Thalryssa's bubble went off and basically killed him for me. LOL. (Now he seems to spawn in the right way, for me at least.) Still bubble could be useful for Elfbane.

[Ealyssa]

you don't have to run back, you either use the teleporter and the end of the scenario or you can just run away from your withered (use the extrabutton before running away if you're too slow to outrun them)

Nice fail.

The right way of doing withered army is :

-Take as much withered as you can/want
-Free all withered you encounter
-clean the scenario
-run back to take the maximum chest you can

You obviously don't take the chests during progression.

[pucca]

Nice fail.

The right way of doing withered army is :

-Take as much withered as you can/want
-Free all withered you encounter
-clean the scenario
-run back to take the maximum chest you can

You obviously don't take the chests during progression.

there are no chests in the scenario anymore once you collected them all once and leaving the withered behind teleports you to the entrance so you can quickly get the rep items if you're still not exalted. it's not failing, its saving time.

[looorg]

I play as a Fire Mage, I have no stuns. After I got all buffs, whole scenario is a cakewalk, I go in with 600 Ancient Mana. Just go slow, avoid bosses that guard places where chests were, Interrupt Arcane bosses casts, wait for cooldowns on bosses to help down them if you're unsure (in my case my frenzied army downs them for me). That's all.

Interrupt, Dragon breath, polymorph ...

[Deleted]

I don't really mind, but this topic has strayed very far from the original question I asked.
So far it seems that toys can be in every chest and it's enough to go in with 400 mana and immediately stop the run since the points only affect the reputation gains. The 'definitive proof' is still missing though.

By the way - what's with some of these 'stop crying and just get 400 points' posts? I think I have a very legitimate question here, so you might want to keep your 'you just want to get stuff for doing nothing' posts out of this.
I've already gotten 400+ points 10 times or so. If I don't have to do it again because there are no rewards left, that doesn't have anything to do with wanting to get free stuff. Seriously, guys. Come on.

[Monteverdi]

I've still amazed people can even get close to 400... My record is 260ish..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgjrf2TPw_8

^ Goes a bit more in-depth to what people have been saying, but the biggest things is knowing what you're going for, knowing what abilities you need to watch for, and keeping at it.

As for the score, I got 416 on an earlier attempt at the scenario and got one of them, so 425 I don't believe is required.