Why did the traditional teams lose the race?

[Spotnick]

Why is it a surprise that when the group #1 split in two grous (Serenity and Method) and the group #2 stops raiding (Paragon), the #3 group wins?

Not sure why.

#4 is the same still.

No big surprise there.

[assman]

Is it really shocking that people clear a raid after 17 hours of attempts?

[Beace]

Is it really shocking that people clear a raid after 17 hours of attempts?

If you had any clue of WoW raiding history, you'd realize that yes, it is.

[Woop Woop]

Doesnt make a difference either way, it is in regards to warlocks.. The world first kill had 0 warlocks in the line-up

Why quote me though? I didn't comment about wether or not the hotfix mattered for WF
just pointed out how lazy some people can be.

[Kazuchika]

I think Exorsus had bigger teeth, they've been a top guild for a while and really wanted their world first

And this was their perfect time. The main competition had either splintered or died so it really was theirs for the taking

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Because they don't care for the first raid so much. The Tier-set raids and the final raid of the expansion are the important ones.

Keep movin them goalposts fanboy.

[Bryntrollian]

Is it because of the way the new expansion changed the game. Did it require more grinding?

Exorsis has been in the race for years and has consistently placed #3 for the past few tiers ( besides t17)

[Aphrel]

Exorsus is a very hardcore guild and they figured out a rly smart tactic on the hardest boss (cenarius) wich won them the race. With 3 dps warrs (leech buff ftw) doing as much healing as their 5 healers. Letting them dps throu the reflect dmg debuff and make p1 twiice as fast as the other guilds.

Its Similar to how paragon won in Highmaul in alrge part because they had an enahncement shammy on imperator and why method won in brf because they figured out a smart way to handle blackhand p3 with 3 rogues.

[Torgent]

Is it because of the way the new expansion changed the game. Did it require more grinding?

The traditional teams won the race....Exorsus has been in the race for years. Method #2. Paragon doesn't raid anymore, so they weren't in it.

[Woobels]

Exorsus is a very hardcore guild and they figured out a rly smart tactic on the hardest boss (cenarius) wich won them the race. With 3 dps warrs (leech buff ftw) doing as much healing as their 5 healers. Letting them dps throu the reflect dmg debuff and make p1 twiice as fast as the other guilds.

Its Similar to how paragon won in Highmaul in alrge part because they had an enahncement shammy on imperator and why method won in brf because they figured out a smart way to handle blackhand p3 with 3 rogues.

2 prot tanks and a dps warrior I'm pretty sure.

or 3 prots even.

[munkeyinorbit]

Is it because of the way the new expansion changed the game. Did it require more grinding?

Why are you being so racist. As the Russians have always been there or there about the only conclusion one would come to is that you are using traditional in a racist context.

[Bathory]

Because they weren't as good. That's typically what happens when you lose a contest.

[Beace]

2 prot tanks and a dps warrior I'm pretty sure.

or 3 prots even.

Are you referring to Inspiring Presence? Does it stack if you have several prot warriors?

[AwkwardSquirtle]

By the "traditional teams" do you mean Method and Paragon?
The previous expansion's "Method" are now split between Serenity and Method, with Method absorbing another guild I forget the name of who were previously 4th or 5th if memory serves. Splitting your strength tends to weaken the team.
Paragon ran out of Finnish raiders and several left, so they aren't raiding this xpac.
As everyone's saying, Exorsus were 3rd on Archimonde and Garrosh, as well as 6th on Blackhand. It makes sense really.

[Aphrel]

2 prot tanks and a dps warrior I'm pretty sure.

or 3 prots even.

ah ye meant 3 tanks.

[Deifi]

Cause Exodus were better.

[Holofernes]

were drugs involved? like doing lines to stay awake and play at a high level.

does performance enhancing supplements affect the legitimacy of the race?

many guys use amphetamines / energy drinks and coffe.

[CloudedInSanity]

Exorsus put in more work than the others. They did the datamining, they had the skills. They were hardcore. It paid off.
The others were too busy streaming/making money from their past successes they didn't prepare well enough.

It's simply: Exorsus was better than the other guilds.

What?

[Sierra85]

many guys use amphetamines / energy drinks and coffe.

is that fair though to the guilds that do not use performance enhancing consumables?

[FelPlague]

Is it because of the way the new expansion changed the game. Did it require more grinding?

they spent most of their time doing split heroic runs, well exorsus whent straight into mythic and brute forced it down

[Deleted]

Is it because of the way the new expansion changed the game. Did it require more grinding?

Serenity and Method are both essentially brand new guilds. It will take them time to hit their stride.